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« on: September 27, 2007, 05:27:43 AM » |
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Luv the new look and feel to the site. I didn't see any topics in here so let's start something. I saw a preview for the Breaking Point special on discovery on Oct. 7. Also saw that Michael Moore will be on Oprah again today. So...
1. Should the three strikes you're out law be thrown out the window? I think Connecticut is considering it yet its seen troubling consequences in California.
2. You either love or hate Michael Moore, but don't you think our health care system needs changed in some way?
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« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2007, 08:21:25 PM » |
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1) No
2) To a certain extent. But universal health care isn't the answer.
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« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2007, 01:45:44 AM » |
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1) No
2) To a certain extent. But universal health care isn't the answer.
Of course it isn't. Universal health care only works in places like Europe. In the USA, it would be a disaster. A nation has to know its handicaps.  |
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« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2007, 10:10:34 AM » |
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It would be unfortunate if we implemented universal healthcare and became a 2nd world nation like Spain but hopefully we will do it right. I think we can and should try for it sometime soon.
Moore is still a lying fool though.
I have no opinion on the 3 strikes rule. Criminals definetely know about it though, so I guess it might be a deterrent.
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« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2007, 11:27:56 AM » |
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It would be unfortunate if we implemented universal healthcare and became a 2nd world nation like Spain but hopefully we will do it right. I think we can and should try for it sometime soon.
Moore is still a lying fool though.
I have no opinion on the 3 strikes rule. Criminals definetely know about it though, so I guess it might be a deterrent.
Thanks for your empathy. We hardly can overcome the shame of being the 11th largest eocnomy in the world, grow at an appalling 3% yearly for over a decade and of course the fact that 98% of our population (illegal aliens included) haves access to universal health care is too shameful to comment. We would be moving to the USA by millions if we weren't so unwilling to burden you with our presence. |
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« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2007, 02:30:29 PM » |
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1) No
2) To a certain extent. But universal health care isn't the answer.
Of course it isn't. Universal health care only works in places like Europe. In the USA, it would be a disaster. A nation has to know its handicaps. I see no reason why it shouldn't work in U.S. It works pretty well in Canada, not perfect, but is Ok. The only thing americans have to do to get universal health care is to agree to pay a little more taxes. |
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« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2007, 03:44:05 PM » |
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Canadians are paying people to find them doctors in America.... How is that system working well?
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« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2007, 03:47:02 PM » |
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Well, rich people are trying to find doctors in America. People who aren't rich use the universal system.
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« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2007, 04:08:28 PM » |
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They are trying to come to Amercia because they don't feel like waiting 2 months to get an appointment with a doctor.... Has nothing to do with wealth.
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« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2007, 04:32:30 PM » |
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Well, poor people aren't paying people to find them doctors.
I just don't understand this idea that some people are more qualified to get better health than others.
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« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2007, 04:35:35 PM » |
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Rofl. It has nothing to do with eing qualified. It has to do with EARNING what you get.
People who go on and on about "It's not fair some people get healthcare and I don't. They are no better than I am". Well they may not be "better" than you, as everyone is equal as people. But they EARNED it. Again, this is why I like America. You earn what you get (to a certain extent. Democrats don't seem to like that idea).
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« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2007, 04:43:08 PM » |
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I get that. But I don't think health is something that should be earned, at a certain level. Just like you don't have to earn money for the right to not be murdered. You might want to earn money to afford a security system, but that's your choice.
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« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2007, 04:57:58 PM » |
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Last time I checked the constitution guranteed the right to life. Also, look up the social contract wigs.
Not to mention that was a terrible analogy.
Why shouldn't healthcare have to be earned? That isn't a human right. It's simply a want.
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« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2007, 06:31:10 PM » |
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You really feel that way? Damn, that sucks.
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« Reply #14 on: September 28, 2007, 07:10:44 PM » |
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Handsouts don't solve anything. They never have and never will. You can disagree if you'd like. But it has always been my position that it isn't the governments job to wipe your behind. It's called taking responsibility...
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