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« Reply #30 on: September 03, 2008, 06:11:15 AM »

 Top... bottom ...middle... We have a pretty good idea as to how John McSame and Sarah Quailin would run the whitehouse. Bush policies continuation, PTSD with old age and failing health, abuses of power by nutjob religious fundamentalist with no resume' ... yeah they look great!
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« Reply #31 on: September 03, 2008, 06:12:43 AM »

Oh, you are a master of smoke-and-mirrors, aren't you....

.....um...but no one can talk to her. At least not until the vetting-by-the-newmedia-because-the-McCain-campaign-is-too-incompetent-to-do-it is complete.

Maybe she's a little busy...or did you think this was unimportant?

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.....as she prepared for a speech Wednesday night that will be her first, and perhaps most important, chance to define herself to the American public.

We'll see how available she is after "her first, and perhaps most important, chance to define herself to the American public" is over.
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« Reply #32 on: September 03, 2008, 06:33:15 AM »

If you want smoke and mirrors, just wait until tonight. How much smoke will there be about her courting a seccessionist movement? How about her stand that abortions should be illegal even in cases of rape? How about her enthusiasm for government pork?

You think we'll get the straight scoop? Or smoke and mirrors? We'll see. Me, I'm all ready for a lot of smoke and mirrors about how she likes mooseburgers; shoots rifles; and is a mother of five, including one with Down syndrome. You know, important stuff like that.
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« Reply #33 on: September 03, 2008, 10:51:02 AM »

If you want smoke and mirrors, just wait until tonight. How much smoke will there be about her courting a seccessionist movement? How about her stand that abortions should be illegal even in cases of rape? How about her enthusiasm for government pork?

You think we'll get the straight scoop? Or smoke and mirrors? We'll see. Me, I'm all ready for a lot of smoke and mirrors about how she likes mooseburgers; shoots rifles; and is a mother of five, including one with Down syndrome. You know, important stuff like that.

lol.. dude you are kinda going off the edge Smiley

Its fun to watch.
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« Reply #34 on: September 03, 2008, 01:09:37 PM »

lol.. dude you are kinda going off the edge Smiley
Its fun to watch.

Yes, indeed, McCain's implosion is fun to watch. Will she make clear that she thinks that it should be illegal for a woman to have an abortion even if the conception was the result of rape or incest?
Or do you think we'll hear more of what a great maverick she is because she said "no" to the Bridge to Nowhere after she had said "yes?"

Will we hear her explain why she thinks religion should be taught in High School science classes?

How much time will she spend explaining why all the studies are wrong, and how teaching abstenance only is the most effective way to prevent unwanted pregnancies, her own "compelling life story" notwithstanding?

I'm curious. Those of you who are so enamored of her, please tell me, does she believe the world was created 10,000 years ago? Does she think dinosaurs and humans co-existed? I think voters should know things like that, but I doubt very much we'll get much of that kind of insight tonight.

Call it a hunch.

Or maybe she'll tell a heart-rending story of how important it is to support teenage daughters who are pregnant. Or maybe not:

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ST. PAUL -- Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, the Republican vice-presidential nominee who revealed Monday that her 17-year-old daughter is pregnant, earlier this year used her line-item veto to slash funding for a state program benefiting teen mothers in need of a place to live.

After the legislature passed a spending bill in April, Palin went through the measure reducing and eliminating funds for programs she opposed. Inking her initials on the legislation -- "SP" -- Palin reduced funding for Covenant House Alaska by more than 20 percent, cutting funds from $5 million to $3.9 million. Covenant House is a mix of programs and shelters for troubled youths, including Passage House, which is a transitional home for teenage mothers.

Source: http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/09/palin-slashed-funding-for-teen.php
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« Reply #35 on: September 05, 2008, 07:25:10 AM »

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Those of you who are so enamored of her, please tell me,

 Not just, Enamored ... don't forget Bonzonite said he would like to have exra-martial sex her. He's thinking with the little head... no reasonong there.
 
lol.. she is kinda hot... heh..  She has 5 kids.. MILF heh


Let's at least pretend that we have some standards, ok free?
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« Reply #36 on: September 05, 2008, 07:55:35 AM »


“Don’t worry, you can divorce her for someone younger once her body gets all stretched out.”
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« Reply #37 on: September 05, 2008, 09:47:50 AM »

I kinda expect more from you JPN.. I am the rabig guy posting without checking facts NOT YOU...

See the updates, it gets a lot worse: what Paul Kane describes as a "slash[ing]" of funds to a non-profit was over a threefold increase from all the government funds they received in 2006.]

Paul Kane of the Washington Post should consider a career as a DailyKos diarist, as he offers "Palin Slashed Funding for Teen Moms" (link):
Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, the Republican vice-presidential nominee who revealed Monday that her 17-year-old daughter is pregnant, earlier this year used her line-item veto to slash funding for a state program benefiting teen mothers in need of a place to live.

After the legislature passed a spending bill in April, Palin went through the measure reducing and eliminating funds for programs she opposed. Inking her initials on the legislation -- "SP" -- Palin reduced funding for Covenant House Alaska by more than 20 percent, cutting funds from $5 million to $3.9 million. Covenant House is a mix of programs and shelters for troubled youths, including Passage House, which is a transitional home for teenage mothers.
As for why he should consider joining DailyKos instead, Kane didn't endeavor to find out why she did that. And, of course, there are many explanations.

One explanation is that Palin is a sociopath who wants teen moms to suffer. However, I believe that explanation can be discarded.

So, we have to search further, and notably, Kane didn't contact the campaign for an explanation. Perhaps she believes that private rather than state monies should be used? Perhaps, if that's the reason, her beliefs are correct; did Kane endeavor to find out whether that could be correct? Perhaps she thought it would discourage teen pregnancies? Perhaps she doesn't come with the set of assumptions Kane obviously has that there must be a state program for everything? Perhaps she has evidence that Covenant House misspends money? Perhaps there are other programs available? All those possibilities Kane does not even broach.

Please contact the WaPo's ombudsman: ombudsman *at* washpost.com

UPDATE: It's even worse than I suspected. According to their site (covenanthouseak.org/involved.htm), "Approximately 90% of our funding comes from the generous donations of friends like you". And, according to this state document (PDF link), they were only to get $155,000 in 2007. It's not clear whether that was their only source of state funding, and their executive director wasn't available.

UPDATE 2: The $3.9 million was part of a grant for a facilities expansion; see this PDF (you might need to change the extension to "PDF" after downloading).

And, Covenant House's IRS Form 990 (link) shows the funds that Paul Kane describes as "slashed" was over a threefold increase from the government funds they received from all sources in 2006 (FY2006 ending 12/31/06). In 2006, they received:

Contributions $1,667,796
Government Grants $1,194,788
Program Services $0
Investments $67,947
Special Events $271,980
Sales $0
Other $11,139
Total Revenue $3,213,650

Note that they also get money from the feds, including on the facilities expansion.

Please use the address above to send a message to the WaPo about their "reporting".

UPDATE 3: This post earlier said it was "almost a fourfold", but I changed it to "over a threefold" to be mathematically precise. Also, there's a round-up of those sites that simply followed the WaPo's lead without even considering they might be wrong here.

UPDATE 4: A comment (not the post) at corrects Matt Yglesias with this (yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2008/09/palin_and_special_needs_children.php#comment-629796):
If you bother looking at the documents, you can see that one program, the Alaska Challenge Youth Academy Program is included in the budget for 2007 but not in 2008. This accounts for nearly all of the discrepancy. You could also see, with a simple search, that the same program is still funded in 2008 (pdf), just on a separate program sheet (in fact, funding was increased, by the governor, by about 50%

FEEL FREE TO READ THE ACTUAL PDF's    24ahead.com/blog/archives/007978.html
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« Reply #38 on: September 05, 2008, 06:51:05 PM »

(in fact, funding was increased, by the governor, by about 50%

Wow Reaganite, you can do research! Good for you! No, really, I didn't think you had it in you! Almost all of what you posted was irrelevant to the story, such as possible excuses for her heartless cut. Only the very last parenthetical statement was pertinent, and possibly exculpatory.

Good for you. Now let's see what you can do on Palin's trying to fire a librarian for not banning books, association with a cult that calls for the sessession of Alaska from the United States, and lying to the state police about ordering a trooper to be fired (hint: focus on the lying).
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