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"In America the people are afraid of the government."
--a American ex-pat in France--
But why? Our goverment is the most ineffectual in the world? We, well, the Reagan Revolution made it that way. America loves to gobble down the delusion of its own Martyrdom by the government. We have the lowest tax rates, yet there is no end to bitching about taxes. Why? Maybe because we get so little for them. Why? Because we refuse to pay for anything. We want great schools and health care and no taxes. This is a nation of children (oh, sorry, I mean GREAT PRINCIPLES LIKE NOT PAYING TAXES AND KICKING THE POOR IN THE TEETH.)
How did America come to be such a sniveling, narrow, rediculous place. When did optimistic America die and become replaced by a snotty hate-filled little brat?
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« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2007, 12:27:26 AM » |
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Have you ever been to the website, Citizens Against Government Waste? How much reading have you done on government waste? What agencies have been listed as HIGH RISK by the GAO? Have you ever read the book, "Is that a POlitician in Your Pocket"? Ever read the book, "The Government Racket:Government Waste A-Z"? According to the Grace Commission, where does every single penny of income taxes from individual tax payers go? http://www.cagw.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=10354 |
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« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2007, 03:52:14 AM » |
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"In America the people are afraid of the government."
--a American ex-pat in France--
But why? Our goverment is the most ineffectual in the world? We, well, the Reagan Revolution made it that way. America loves to gobble down the delusion of its own Martyrdom by the government. We have the lowest tax rates, yet there is no end to bitching about taxes. Why? Maybe because we get so little for them. Why? Because we refuse to pay for anything. We want great schools and health care and no taxes. This is a nation of children (oh, sorry, I mean GREAT PRINCIPLES LIKE NOT PAYING TAXES AND KICKING THE POOR IN THE TEETH.)
How did America come to be such a sniveling, narrow, rediculous place. When did optimistic America die and become replaced by a snotty hate-filled little brat?
Simple one one answer...... LIBERALISM |
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Racist comments
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« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2007, 04:57:17 AM » |
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"In America the people are afraid of the government."
--a American ex-pat in France--
But why? Our goverment is the most ineffectual in the world? We, well, the Reagan Revolution made it that way. America loves to gobble down the delusion of its own Martyrdom by the government. We have the lowest tax rates, yet there is no end to bitching about taxes. Why? Maybe because we get so little for them. Why? Because we refuse to pay for anything. We want great schools and health care and no taxes. This is a nation of children (oh, sorry, I mean GREAT PRINCIPLES LIKE NOT PAYING TAXES AND KICKING THE POOR IN THE TEETH.)
How did America come to be such a sniveling, narrow, rediculous place. When did optimistic America die and become replaced by a snotty hate-filled little brat?
Simple one one answer...... LIBERALISMYeah, 'cause government spending dropped so much with W in office and a conservative congress. Glad to see they fixed all that liberal spending while they had the chance. Seriously, do you think before you type? |
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« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2007, 06:18:46 AM » |
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Seriously, do you think before you type? Considering it's the same three sentences every thread, I'd say he has it on auto-respond. |
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« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2007, 06:50:49 AM » |
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Seriously, do you think before you type? Considering it's the same three sentences every thread, I'd say he has it on auto-respond. Well take you for a example.....stupid is as stupid does...fits you to a capital T |
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« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2007, 07:45:49 AM » |
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Bush is indeed a fiscal socialist. If you're going to criticize him (other than his utterly non-presidential communication skill set) here's where to do it and not sound crazy.
Another way of looking at it could be that instead of the economy giving the gov its money, the gov is giving the economy its money. The government is the debtor and it owes its creditor (the US economy) a boatload of cash money...plus 1 little man.
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« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2007, 08:11:20 AM » |
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"In America the people are afraid of the government."
--a American ex-pat in France--
But why? Our goverment is the most ineffectual in the world? We, well, the Reagan Revolution made it that way. America loves to gobble down the delusion of its own Martyrdom by the government. We have the lowest tax rates, yet there is no end to bitching about taxes. Why? Maybe because we get so little for them. Why? Because we refuse to pay for anything. We want great schools and health care and no taxes. This is a nation of children (oh, sorry, I mean GREAT PRINCIPLES LIKE NOT PAYING TAXES AND KICKING THE POOR IN THE TEETH.)
How did America come to be such a sniveling, narrow, rediculous place. When did optimistic America die and become replaced by a snotty hate-filled little brat?
Simple one one answer...... LIBERALISMYeah, 'cause government spending dropped so much with W in office and a conservative congress. Glad to see they fixed all that liberal spending while they had the chance. Seriously, do you think before you type? We have a liberal congress now... Seems nothing has changed (except for congressional approval getting lower). And as for Bush. He isn't even a conservative. So that's a moot point. |
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« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2007, 01:30:29 PM » |
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If every politician was really a liberal or a conservative, the contry and economy would be doing great because both make reasonable choices. The problem is our government is run by Republicans and Democrats who don't practice ANY method they supposedly subscribe to... except for greed, corruption and the pursuit of more power.
Both parties suck. I'm getting tired of writing it.
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« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2007, 01:43:03 PM » |
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Our government should be afraid of us, we have guns and strong points in the constitution against government tyranny. Unfortunately people are too stupid and don't know their rights and believe the government can do no wrong so they let them do what they want. Like with the neo-cons wire-tapping and going off on crusades over seas so the top 1% can put more oil in their planes and continue ripping off the american people with higher gas prices. Or on the other side of the coin when the neo-libs want to get rid of guns and create laws that violate freedom of speech like in New York by getting rid of words like "bitch" and the "n-word". People just don't care and let these things happen when it's a clear violation of the constitution and anyone who agreed to pass them should be in a jail cell with the worst of the worst. It's taking away human rights and all that we stand for.
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« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2007, 08:42:52 AM » |
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Bush is indeed a fiscal socialist. If you're going to criticize him (other than his utterly non-presidential communication skill set) here's where to do it and not sound crazy.
Another way of looking at it could be that instead of the economy giving the gov its money, the gov is giving the economy its money. The government is the debtor and it owes its creditor (the US economy) a boatload of cash money...plus 1 little man. The government is not a debtor to its own citizens, because it returns value to them in the form of vital public services that millions of people use. What the government must now do is increase taxes so as to balance the budget and be able to in fact increase spending. High spending is justified by high taxes, and society is made more stable as a result. How do you like that?  |
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« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2007, 11:14:23 AM » |
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Bush is indeed a fiscal socialist. If you're going to criticize him (other than his utterly non-presidential communication skill set) here's where to do it and not sound crazy.
Another way of looking at it could be that instead of the economy giving the gov its money, the gov is giving the economy its money. The government is the debtor and it owes its creditor (the US economy) a boatload of cash money...plus 1 little man. The government is not a debtor to its own citizens, because it returns value to them in the form of vital public services that millions of people use. What the government must now do is increase taxes so as to balance the budget and be able to in fact increase spending. High spending is justified by high taxes, and society is made more stable as a result. How do you like that? I couldn't disagree more. We need to Eliminate 2/3rds of the Federal Government immediately. Then Eliminate the income tax. The notion that US citizens don't pay enough taxes in ridiculous. Our government in is a criminal and fraudulent organization that steals and wastes our money. We also need to end the unconstitutional central bank of the Federal Reserve. |
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« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2007, 12:07:14 PM » |
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"In America the people are afraid of the government."
--a American ex-pat in France--
But why? Our goverment is the most ineffectual in the world? We, well, the Reagan Revolution made it that way. America loves to gobble down the delusion of its own Martyrdom by the government. We have the lowest tax rates, yet there is no end to bitching about taxes. Why? Maybe because we get so little for them. Why? Because we refuse to pay for anything. We want great schools and health care and no taxes. This is a nation of children (oh, sorry, I mean GREAT PRINCIPLES LIKE NOT PAYING TAXES AND KICKING THE POOR IN THE TEETH.)
How did America come to be such a sniveling, narrow, rediculous place. When did optimistic America die and become replaced by a snotty hate-filled little brat?
Simple one one answer...... LIBERALISM WTF part of this is a bad thing?? lib·er·al·ism Pronunciation[lib-er-uh-liz-uhm, lib-ruh-] Pronunciation Key -
–noun 1. the quality or state of being liberal, as in behavior or attitude.
2. a political or social philosophy advocating the freedom of the individual, parliamentary systems of government, nonviolent modification of political, social, or economic institutions to assure unrestricted development in all spheres of human endeavor, and governmental guarantees of individual rights and civil liberties.
3. (sometimes initial capital letter) the principles and practices of a liberal party in politics.
4. a movement in modern Protestantism that emphasizes freedom from tradition and authority, the adjustment of religious beliefs to scientific conceptions, and the development of spiritual capacities.
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« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2007, 10:41:32 PM » |
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Bush is indeed a fiscal socialist. If you're going to criticize him (other than his utterly non-presidential communication skill set) here's where to do it and not sound crazy.
Another way of looking at it could be that instead of the economy giving the gov its money, the gov is giving the economy its money. The government is the debtor and it owes its creditor (the US economy) a boatload of cash money...plus 1 little man. The government is not a debtor to its own citizens, because it returns value to them in the form of vital public services that millions of people use. What the government must now do is increase taxes so as to balance the budget and be able to in fact increase spending. High spending is justified by high taxes, and society is made more stable as a result. How do you like that? I couldn't disagree more. We need to Eliminate 2/3rds of the Federal Government immediately. Then Eliminate the income tax. The notion that US citizens don't pay enough taxes in ridiculous. Our government in is a criminal and fraudulent organization that steals and wastes our money. We also need to end the unconstitutional central bank of the Federal Reserve. Wow, someone who actually understands and supports the principles in the constitution. I am shocked. Notice how Irwin has not posted since he started this thread? Notice how he ignored all of my questions? Notice how most of the people who support more taxes have never bothered to research government waste? Notice how Irwin talks about taxes, schools and healthcare, but people who wish to keep most of the money they earn are........."snotty hate-filled little brats"? So, if I want to refuse to give the government money so that they can spend 50 billion a year on war on drugs, which does nothing but make every problem associated with drug use worse, then I am a snotty hate-filled little brat? I guess if I don't want the government spending my money on illegal immigrants, especially when there are so many tax paying Americans who need help, I am a snotty hate-filled little brat? I bet Irwin has no idea how much TAXPAYER money is spent on illegal immigrants, or the war on drugs, or wasted by hundreds of agencies, or the countless examples of fraud, and abuse. People like Irwin usually have good hearts, but they either do not understand what individual liberty means, or they do not support it. People like Irwin fail to understand that absolute power corrupts absolutely. Because people like this are too lazy to research the documented abuses that have happened in the past, they fail to see why giving more money to the government is a bad idea. These people live in an imaginary world and they have no clue as to what is going on in the world. It wouldn't be so bad if they would actually make an effort to educate themselves, but they fear the truth, so they refuse to research almost any topic. Tis sad. |
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« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2007, 03:29:49 AM » |
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I think its sad that you think you have all the answers...
The American government is the people. If there is something we should be afraid of, it should be ourselves.
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