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« on: October 10, 2007, 07:51:48 PM » |
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Leak Severed a Link to Al-Qaeda's Secrets
Firm Says Administration's Handling of Video Ruined Its Spying Efforts
By Joby Warrick
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, October 9, 2007; Page A01
A small private intelligence company that monitors Islamic terrorist groups obtained a new Osama bin Laden video ahead of its official release last month, and around 10 a.m. on Sept. 7, it notified the Bush administration of its secret acquisition. It gave two senior officials access on the condition that the officials not reveal they had it until the al-Qaeda release.
Within 20 minutes, a range of intelligence agencies had begun downloading it from the company's Web site. By midafternoon that day, the video and a transcript of its audio track had been leaked from within the Bush administration to cable television news and broadcast worldwide.
The founder of the company, the SITE Intelligence Group, says this premature disclosure tipped al-Qaeda to a security breach and destroyed a years-long surveillance operation that the company has used to intercept and pass along secret messages, videos and advance warnings of suicide bombings from the terrorist group's communications network.
"Techniques that took years to develop are now ineffective and worthless," said Rita Katz, the firm's 44-year-old founder, who has garnered wide attention by publicizing statements and videos from extremist chat rooms and Web sites, while attracting controversy over the secrecy of SITE's methodology. Her firm provides intelligence about terrorist groups to a wide range of paying clients, including private firms and military and intelligence agencies from the United States and several other countries. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/08/AR2007100801817.htmlJust business as usual in the worst Administration in our nation's history. It leaks like a sieve when it wants to: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/10/politics/10leak.html?ex=1297227600&en=fa5a437d48d75f0d&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rssIncluding for cheap political payback: http://thinkprogress.org/leak-scandalEven if it compromises intelligence assets and capabilities: http://whateveralready.blogspot.com/2006/02/did-bush-administration-authorize-leak.htmlThis Administration should never have been trusted with our security. Jesus. |
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« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2007, 07:55:26 PM » |
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Update: U.S. intelligence officials will investigate allegations that the government improperly leaked a secretly obtained Osama bin Laden video, alerting al-Qaeda to a security gap in the terrorist group’s internal communications network that it was able to shut, an intelligence spokesman said yesterday.
Ross Feinstein, a spokesman for the director of national intelligence, said officials are looking into the leak allegation by the SITE Intelligence Group, which passed the video on to the White House and the director of national intelligence’s office before its leak.
“At this point, we don’t think there was a leak from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence or the National Counterterrorism Center,” Feinstein said.
White House spokeswoman Dana Perino, responding to a description of the leak in yesterday’s editions of The Washington Post, told reporters that “this was a cause of concern that the information was leaked. And I would have to refer to the DNI’s office in regards to any possible investigation into that leak.” http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/09/AR2007100902055.html |
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« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2007, 07:58:38 PM » |
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Actually, I had heard this on CNN yesterday and totally forgot to look into it. It's a very interesting thing, to say the least and could be VERY damning in the future.
What I haven't been able to find is any rebuttal from the administration. Are they just hoping it goes away?
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« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2007, 08:06:49 PM » |
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What I haven't been able to find is any rebuttal from the administration. Are they just hoping it goes away?
Press Secretary Dana Perino said intelligence agencies would be responsible for investigating what she described as any "process problem " in the alleged disclosure of sensitive information from a tip the administration received in advance of Osama bin Laden's video message last month. sourceGot that? It's just a "process problem." Everyone just move along now. |
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« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2007, 08:18:22 PM » |
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What I haven't been able to find is any rebuttal from the administration. Are they just hoping it goes away?
Press Secretary Dana Perino said intelligence agencies would be responsible for investigating what she described as any "process problem " in the alleged disclosure of sensitive information from a tip the administration received in advance of Osama bin Laden's video message last month. sourceGot that? It's just a "process problem." Everyone just move along now. I thought the fact that there was a process in which this was leaked is itself the problem. |
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« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2007, 08:25:47 PM » |
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What I haven't been able to find is any rebuttal from the administration. Are they just hoping it goes away?
Press Secretary Dana Perino said intelligence agencies would be responsible for investigating what she described as any "process problem " in the alleged disclosure of sensitive information from a tip the administration received in advance of Osama bin Laden's video message last month. sourceGot that? It's just a "process problem." Everyone just move along now. I thought the fact that there was a process in which this was leaked is itself the problem. Oooooooh... good point. But what benefit would the administration have for leaking this intentionally? Destroying private companies that do better than the government? Sounds possible... but not very reasonable. If they didn't like private companies they simply wouldn't employ them. Basically, what I'm wondering is exactly who would benefit from a leak like this? |
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Either you repeat the same conventional doctrines everybody is saying, or else you say something true, and it will sound like its from Neptune.
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illerino if youre not into the whole brevity thing
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« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2007, 08:33:02 PM » |
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What I haven't been able to find is any rebuttal from the administration. Are they just hoping it goes away?
Press Secretary Dana Perino said intelligence agencies would be responsible for investigating what she described as any "process problem " in the alleged disclosure of sensitive information from a tip the administration received in advance of Osama bin Laden's video message last month. sourceGot that? It's just a "process problem." Everyone just move along now. I thought the fact that there was a process in which this was leaked is itself the problem. Oooooooh... good point. But what benefit would the administration have for leaking this intentionally? Destroying private companies that do better than the government? Sounds possible... but not very reasonable. If they didn't like private companies they simply wouldn't employ them. Basically, what I'm wondering is exactly who would benefit from a leak like this? The media outlet it was leaked to and then any outlet that picks up the story. The post article is vague about who it was leaked to. |
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« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2007, 08:35:01 PM » |
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I was under the impression it would have been politically motivated.
The "media angle" didn't occur to me...
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« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2007, 09:12:02 PM » |
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Oh please... when has the Bush administration ever leaked sensitive information that was not for political reasons?  |
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« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2007, 01:24:49 AM » |
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STUPID!  It's so horribly stupid that one must praise how breathing is unconscious, else everyone involved in that stupidity would forget to breathe and would die... not a great loss anyway. I just can figure that if Midway battle was to occur now, MSM would be publishing "We Got To Set Up Japs At Midway Island!" the week before... The more it goes, the more the USA look like a brontosaur whose brain died a day ago and still hasn't noticed...  |
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« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2007, 01:42:59 AM » |
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Anyone else ever notice that jpn can never use a source that isnt a screaming crazy liberal?
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Really BBW? Show me where I said one racist comment. But I can show you where a mod at this board has and nothing was done about it.
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« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2007, 02:46:44 AM » |
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Anyone else ever notice that jpn can never use a source that isnt a screaming crazy liberal?
You mean the Washington Post?? Those crazy screamers who enlightened the world about Nixon and uncovered the watergate coverup when no one else would. I think they have served us well. |
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« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2007, 03:36:24 AM » |
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Anyone else ever notice that jpn can never use a source that isnt a screaming crazy liberal?
Yeah, we all know that in your opinion reality is only real when it's told by the right source. |
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« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2007, 04:01:02 AM » |
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Or is THIS the leak? (cue creepy music)
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« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2007, 06:19:37 AM » |
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What I haven't been able to find is any rebuttal from the administration. Are they just hoping it goes away?
Press Secretary Dana Perino said intelligence agencies would be responsible for investigating what she described as any "process problem " in the alleged disclosure of sensitive information from a tip the administration received in advance of Osama bin Laden's video message last month. sourceGot that? It's just a "process problem." Everyone just move along now. I thought the fact that there was a process in which this was leaked is itself the problem. Oooooooh... good point. But what benefit would the administration have for leaking this intentionally? Destroying private companies that do better than the government? Sounds possible... but not very reasonable. If they didn't like private companies they simply wouldn't employ them. Basically, what I'm wondering is exactly who would benefit from a leak like this? CIA, FBI, NSA to name a few. I can only imagine how pissed those agencies are about PRIVATE intel agencies much less ones that are more capable than they are. I would love to find out how this was actually leaked. I will bet it was becuase of incompetence in the government intel agencies. They are STILL run like little fiefdoms with the directors of each agency acting as the "Lord" and none of them want to communicate with eachother for fear they will get scoped and lose funding. |
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