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Author Topic: 40 years of the assesination of the biggest american hero: che guevara  (Read 2715 times)
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« Reply #30 on: October 18, 2007, 08:32:45 AM »

Aww man I missed out on all of the fun in this thread. All I have to say is that I produbly wear my Che shirt:


I will say I got a few dirty looks on my college campus.... But that just makes the shirt more enjoyable.

Good for you! Grin Grin Grin Wink

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« Reply #31 on: October 19, 2007, 05:45:42 AM »

It seems to me amazing the way that left use propaganda. Goebbels was just a teenager if you compare him with lefty propaganda. In fact Lenin used to say that the lie itself, was a political weapon.
Why don't we have T-shirts like the one show above but with Hitle's face on it?
I mean, Hitler is only seen as a son of a w***e, who killed 6 millions jews, but when Hitler began to kill jews, we had lost count about the people killed by Stalin, folks.

What I mean is that if the killer is a lefty, is OK, he is not that bad, there must be a reason why he did kill so many. But if the killer is a righty..............he is a fascists, an assesin, a ultrareactionary killer.
The left believe that they are one step over the rest in moral terms and thanks to that position, they believe they are the best situated people, to decide what is right or wrong.¡¡¡¡¡Y una mierda!!!!
That's the reason why Ernesto Che Guevara is an icon, when he is as son of a w***e as Stalin or Hitler or Ceacescu. That's why Fidel is nice, when the reality is that he is un hijo de puta too. So wearing a Che Guevara t-shirt or even a Ho Chi Min t-shirt, makes you progresist, modern, trendy, you walk under the sign if the time, you're also protected by (read it pompously now) "the ideology of the Left"

Does anybody know why after every yearly USSR communist party meeting in Moscow, the communists delegates kept clapping for 45 minutes?
I don't know where I read it, but it seems that no one dare to be the first one to stop clapping. Perhaps you could be seen by the GPU, later known as KGB,.....and maybe they would want to know about that unloyal behaviorw. I don't think an explanation of what would had happen in that case, is needed. It seems too, that no one dare to look Stalin straigh to his eyes.

It is also true that we still don't know exactly how many were killed by Stalin, 20 millions? 40 millions? What I know for sure is that Lenin warned, more than once, about Stalin. Vladimir Illich used to say that Stalin was not the man for the General Secretary of the USSR Comunist party. And he was right folks.
As you might know Trostki, founder of the Red Army, also had problems with Stalin. Trostki was killed by a spaniard anarchist, but Stalin not only ordered this crime, but also Trostki was taken out (I guess this is not corretclywritten) of the USSR History books. He never existed after Stalin.

The spanish left, back in 1936 won the elections that year. People was sent to jail just because the way they looked like. I mean, wearing a tie, a pair of shoes and a suit, back in those days, was enough to label you as a fascist, after that labelling..........you entered jail or you simply were killed.

So IMO all this "lefty" romanticism, is fake. It is just another lie in the sense Lenin used to talk about it.

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« Reply #32 on: October 20, 2007, 07:36:47 AM »

it's not about Commies, Imperialists or Nationalists but about group of useless, no life and pointless focks who got into power by brainwashing masses and executed all resistance around them... kids who got beaten in schools and other crap,,,


Now Jabato,,,
i don't know how education is in Spain but Hitler is not only responsible for mass murder of Jews and other unwanted by him groups but also for starting a war with almost 100 million casualties,,,

again with all due respect to Stalin, Lenin and even Che whom all got their brightest moments of blood sucking but they cannot surpass evilness of Hitler and his surrounding,,, again WWII is not only about Nazi crimes against Jews but crimes against all humanity and mainly Europeans... you as Spanish should know that as you been there,,,
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« Reply #33 on: October 20, 2007, 08:01:15 AM »

it's not about Commies, Imperialists or Nationalists but about group of useless, no life and pointless focks who got into power by brainwashing masses and executed all resistance around them... kids who got beaten in schools and other crap,,,


Now Jabato,,,
i don't know how education is in Spain but Hitler is not only responsible for mass murder of Jews and other unwanted by him groups but also for starting a war with almost 100 million casualties,,,

again with all due respect to Stalin, Lenin and even Che whom all got their brightest moments of blood sucking but they cannot surpass evilness of Hitler and his surrounding,,, again WWII is not only about Nazi crimes against Jews but crimes against all humanity and mainly Europeans... you as Spanish should know that as you been there,,,

Stalin and Mao each killed more than Hitler. No to defend Hitler, Goering, Himmler, Heydrich and the rest of those butchering swine. True National Socialism died in 1934 with Strasser and Roehm.

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« Reply #34 on: October 20, 2007, 08:33:29 AM »

fat got into your brains or is that's the way you learn history in US?
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« Reply #35 on: October 20, 2007, 09:52:11 AM »

fat got into your brains or is that's the way you learn history in US?

Disprove what I said.
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« Reply #36 on: October 20, 2007, 10:37:12 AM »


Disprove what I said.

Are Stalin or Mao responsible for 100 million death during WWII? Stop blabing crap,,, those weren't good guys but nowhere near Hitler,,, you just have no idea what are you on about,,,
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« Reply #37 on: October 20, 2007, 11:09:45 AM »


Disprove what I said.

Are Stalin or Mao responsible for 100 million death during WWII? Stop blabing crap,,, those weren't good guys but nowhere near Hitler,,, you just have no idea what are you on about,,,

Stalin and Mao killed their own people just like the Khmer Rouge. Stalin abetted Hitler when he started WWII.

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« Reply #38 on: October 20, 2007, 11:56:48 AM »

Stalin was Georgian and killed all but his own while Hitler killed/gassed his own ppl

moreover you should praise Stalin for killing all those Jewish Marxists who kicked monarchy out Russia and your main enemy,,, just check Stalin's black list, all Lenin's Jewish Marxists were slowly taken out,,, he should be your role model, your fuhrer,,, whatever... you pointless anyways

as for China, the only known fact about it is that communists killed around million of Tibetans,,, but again noone cares since defending 50.000 Palestinians who got killed in 60 years of conflict is much more important than bothering China,,,
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« Reply #39 on: October 20, 2007, 01:48:20 PM »

Stalin was Georgian and killed all but his own while Hitler killed/gassed his own ppl

moreover you should praise Stalin for killing all those Jewish Marxists who kicked monarchy out Russia and your main enemy,,, just check Stalin's black list, all Lenin's Jewish Marxists were slowly taken out,,, he should be your role model, your fuhrer,,, whatever... you pointless anyways

as for China, the only known fact about it is that communists killed around million of Tibetans,,, but again noone cares since defending 50.000 Palestinians who got killed in 60 years of conflict is much more important than bothering China,,,

You are right about Stalin as a Georgian. In fact Stalin was not Russian, Hitler was not German (Austrian) and Napoleon was not French (Corsican). One of history's ironies. Look: Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Che and all their flunkies are in hell.

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« Reply #40 on: October 20, 2007, 09:05:25 PM »

Not all Latinos celebrated the 40th year anniversary with pride.

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CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) — A glass monument to revolutionary icon Ernesto "Che" Guevara was shot up and destroyed less than two weeks after it was unveiled by Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez's government.

Images of the 8-foot-tall glass plate bearing Guevara's image, now toppled and shattered, were shown Friday on state television, which said the entire country "repudiated" the vandalism.

The monument on an Andean mountain highway near the city of Merida was unveiled Oct. 8 by Vice President Jorge Rodriguez and Cuba's ambassador to Venezuela to mark the 40th anniversary of Guevara's death.

Chavez venerates Guevara as a model socialist for all Venezuelans. He named a state-funded adult education program "Mission Che Guevara," and murals of the iconic revolutionary have become a common sight in Venezuela.

Police said they had yet to identify those responsible. The Venezuelan newspaper El Nacional published a copy of what it said was a flier found by the monument signed by the previously unknown "Paramo Patriotic Front."

"We don't want any monument to Che, he isn't an example for our children," the flier read. It called Guevara a "cold-blooded killer" and said the government should raise a monument in Chavez's hometown of Sabaneta, in the nearby lowland plains, if it wants to commemorate the Argentine-born revolutionary

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« Reply #41 on: October 20, 2007, 09:16:36 PM »

You are right about Stalin as a Georgian. In fact Stalin was not Russian, Hitler was not German (Austrian) and Napoleon was not French (Corsican). One of history's ironies. Look: Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Che and all their flunkies are in hell.

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Austrian = German,,, it exactly the same nation,,, they look exactly the same and speak exactly the same language,,, Again it doesn't matter because Stalin never killed as much as Hitler,,, Napoleon has nothing to do with it ,,,

Hitler is ultimate evil nothing compares to it or it's surrounding,,,
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« Reply #42 on: October 21, 2007, 05:40:04 AM »

You are right about Stalin as a Georgian. In fact Stalin was not Russian, Hitler was not German (Austrian) and Napoleon was not French (Corsican). One of history's ironies. Look: Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Che and all their flunkies are in hell.

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Austrian = German,,, it exactly the same nation,,, they look exactly the same and speak exactly the same language,,, Again it doesn't matter because Stalin never killed as much as Hitler,,, Napoleon has nothing to do with it ,,,

Hitler is ultimate evil nothing compares to it or it's surrounding,,,

What is Stalin? Good Old Uncle Joe? Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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« Reply #43 on: October 21, 2007, 10:39:22 AM »

imho Stalin was evil creature but not as evil as Hitler, again you should love Stalin as he was the one who executed Jewish intellectuals, the ones you call Marxists,,, even after his death Jewish doctors were responsible,,, on other hand Hitler is responsible for 100 million of deaths,, you can't count this is your problem...
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« Reply #44 on: October 21, 2007, 11:30:17 AM »

imho Stalin was evil creature but not as evil as Hitler, again you should love Stalin as he was the one who executed Jewish intellectuals, the ones you call Marxists,,, even after his death Jewish doctors were responsible,,, on other hand Hitler is responsible for 100 million of deaths,, you can't count this is your problem...

Stalin merely replaced one form of marxism with another. We still have these divisions today in the US. Trotskyite neocons running the GOP and Frankfurt School cultural marxists running the Democratic Party. Very few true Americanists-Buchanan, Nader, Paul a few others.

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