chevive
Newbie
Karma: +2/-68
Posts: 28
god doesnt exist, deal with it!
|
 |
« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2007, 06:07:46 PM » |
|
you honestly believe that Bush is more of a threat the Amrinagotanfedupname in Iran?
bush has shown that he is much more dangerous. he started two wars in base of lies and economic interests. thats a fact. like it or not |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
neue regel
|
|
« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2007, 06:34:15 PM » |
|
bush has shown that he is much more dangerous. he started two wars in base of lies and economic interests. thats a fact. like it or not Interesting talking point. I'm sure you can prove this or you would have never leveled such an accusation. Perhaps you contact Harry Reid with this information and ask him to start impeachment proceedings immediately. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Cabrini Green
Full Member
Karma: +12/-59
Posts: 136
|
|
« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2007, 06:51:19 PM » |
|
Bush loves his fear mongering, doesn't he?
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
\"Do you really believe if we replace a bunch of corporate Republicans with a bunch of corporate Democrats, that anything meaningful is going to change? This has to stop. It\'s that simple.\"
|
|
|
|
2112
|
|
« Reply #18 on: October 18, 2007, 05:12:44 AM » |
|
This war in Iraq has already gone on longer than WWII, and it doesn't look like it's going to end any time soon.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
neue regel
|
|
« Reply #19 on: October 18, 2007, 05:18:04 AM » |
|
We ended WW2 with a bang. Is your suggestion to take the gloves off now?
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
2112
|
|
« Reply #20 on: October 18, 2007, 05:29:21 AM » |
|
We dropped a lot of bombs before dropping the big bomb, the war was pretty much over before we dropped the first atomic bomb. Do you think that another country should alleviate the U.S. of its weapons?
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
neue regel
|
|
« Reply #21 on: October 18, 2007, 05:59:27 AM » |
|
We forget what REAL wars look like.
Stats from WW2....
The Soviet Union lost the most with 25 million deaths, but only about a third were combat related.
China's death toll is incomplete but estimates are between 15 and 22 million.
Poland had 6 million deaths including 3 million Jews, roughly 20% of its prewar population.
Germany lost 4 million soldiers and 2 million civilians, many of them women.
Japan had 1.2 million battle deaths and another 1.4 million soldiers listed as missing, almost 1 million civilians were killed in the bombing raids between 1944 and 1945.
Over 1.7 million Yugoslavs and 500,000 Greeks died in the war.
France lost 200,000 soldiers and 400,000 civilians.
Italy lost 330,000 people.
Hungary lost 147,000 men in combat.
Bulgaria lost 19,000 in combat.
Romania lost 73,000 in combat.
Great Britain lost 264,000 soldiers and 60,000 civilians in bombing raids.
The United States lost 292,000 soldiers.
The Dutch lost 10,000 soldiers and 190,000 civilians.
Australia lost 23,000 men in combat.
Canada lost 37,000 soldiers.
India lost 24,000 men in battle.
New Zeland lost 10,000.
South Africa lost 6,000.
These totals do not include the 6 million Jews who perished in the Final Solution of Nazi Germany or the 17 million dead as a result of Japan's policies in Asia from 1931 to 1945.
__________________________________________
The US doesn't have the fortitude to fight like this anymore. Could end up being our undoing.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Opmod
|
|
« Reply #22 on: October 18, 2007, 06:01:52 AM » |
|
you honestly believe that Bush is more of a threat the Amrinagotanfedupname in Iran?
bush has shown that he is much more dangerous. he started two wars in base of lies and economic interests. thats a fact. like it or not 1 war nad there is NO evidence he lied and was not honestly misinformed like the greatest majority of people at the time. Afgahnistan bright it on itself. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
\\\"Something witty\\\" Some self impotant blowhard
|
|
|
|
Opmod
|
|
« Reply #23 on: October 18, 2007, 06:08:38 AM » |
|
We dropped a lot of bombs before dropping the big bomb, the war was pretty much over before we dropped the first atomic bomb. Do you think that another country should alleviate the U.S. of its weapons?
Actually Japan refused to surrender. It would have cost literally millions more lives to capture the Japaness mainland. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
\\\"Something witty\\\" Some self impotant blowhard
|
|
|
Toaster
Hero Member
Karma: +53/-129
Posts: 741
Burnin' for you
|
|
« Reply #24 on: October 18, 2007, 06:26:06 AM » |
|
you honestly believe that Bush is more of a threat the Amrinagotanfedupname in Iran?
bush has shown that he is much more dangerous. he started two wars in base of lies and economic interests. thats a fact. like it or not There is plenty of eivdence that he lied and that his administration lied for him. There was no threat of a nuclear bomb from Iraq. There was no threat of "fleets of aerial drones spraying chemical death on US cities". Iraq's WMDs were not a dire threat to the National Security of the USA. As late as July of 2001, the official Bush stance on Iraq was that Iraq was contained, Iraq was unable to project military power and its WMD programs, while still coveted by Saddam, had not amounted to anything and that any stockpiles he had, would be chemical artillery shells of expired chemical weapons. Since this has turned out to be clearly true, and as has been said over and over, no new data was discovered in the months leading up to the war, the truth is: The Bush administration cherry picked minority report data, presented it as vetted and factual and sold it to the American public not as minority theory, but fact. In short, the lied like Al Gore lied in Inconvenient Truth or Michael Moore in Farenheit. There was no threat from Saddam's defunct WMD programs or expired chemical shells. The rocket tubes were no suitable for uranium enrichment. The fleets of aerial drones and payloads of chemical death did not exist. When Fox announced WMDs were found, but it turned out to be poorly tested water samples, they were lying. 1 war nad there is NO evidence he lied and was not honestly misinformed like the greatest majority of people at the time. Afgahnistan bright it on itself. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
DISCUSSION, n.
A method of confirming others in their errors.
The Devil\\'s Dictionary
|
|
|
gkferris
Newbie
Karma: +4/-9
Posts: 47
|
|
« Reply #25 on: October 18, 2007, 10:55:09 AM » |
|
We dropped a lot of bombs before dropping the big bomb, the war was pretty much over before we dropped the first atomic bomb. Do you think that another country should alleviate the U.S. of its weapons?
Actually Japan refused to surrender. It would have cost literally millions more lives to capture the Japaness mainland. Yeah, but did we really have to hit Nagasaki? |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
gkferris
Newbie
Karma: +4/-9
Posts: 47
|
|
« Reply #26 on: October 18, 2007, 10:55:49 AM » |
|
US President George W. Bush said Wednesday that he had warned world leaders they must prevent Iran from getting nuclear weapons "if you're interested in avoiding World War III."
"We've got a leader in Iran who has announced that he wants to destroy Israel," Bush said at a White House press conference after Russia cautioned against military action against Tehran's supect atomic program.
"So I've told people that, if you're interested in avoiding World War III, it seems like you ought to be interested in preventing them from having the knowledge necessary to make a nuclear weapon," said Bush. LINKWith all due respect, Mr. President, we've heard this before and your powers to fortell the future are no "beuano". "Knowing these realities, America must not ignore the threat gathering against us. Facing clear evidence of peril, we cannot wait for the final proof -- the smoking gun -- that could come in the form of a mushroom cloud."- President Bush (Monday, October 7, 2002 in Cininnati, OH) in reference to Iraq's WMD programs Carriers in the Persian Gulf, bases in Iraq, political sabre ratteling... If WW III starts, it's cause we didn't stop President Bush from starting it*. *Overly dramatic, I know... but you get my point. Dude, lay off the smoke, it will rot your brain. you honestly believe that Bush is more of a threat the Amrinagotanfedupname in Iran? Of course he doesnt...but the democratic party wants you to be afraid of a fellow American more so than a terrorist..... Ever thought about using some of that GI Bill money for an education? |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
