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« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2007, 01:15:35 PM »

now now 2.DOH you are a lot of things..... but I don't think I would go so far as to call you a window licking asshat.....  

I appreciate that, Tara.

While I may lack Barney's humility, D9's incisive wit, chemart's integrity , zuk's warmth,
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Thanks 2.doh, now please stock licking the windows at my house while you admire my rugged good looks and matching socks. Cheesy
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« Reply #16 on: October 18, 2007, 01:19:19 PM »

now now 2.DOH you are a lot of things..... but I don't think I would go so far as to call you a window licking asshat.....   

I appreciate that, Tara.

While I may lack Barney's humility, D9's incisive wit, chemart's integrity , zuk's warmth,
and JIMP's sense of style & rugged good looks, I do have a realistic grasp of
my limitations.


Applaud for that b/c you made me laugh.....
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« Reply #17 on: October 18, 2007, 01:20:20 PM »

Yes this was something that had to be said.  *sigh* I must admit that my initial draw to IAP was the P&R section.  Now a days though you can't get a thought or a word out without someone telling you it's wrong because they believe something else.  It's all about religion now, the philosophy seems to have vanished.  *sigh*

To be honest Targo, part of the philosophy section transferred to the lobby over a year ago.

The lobby seems to have a wider readership and is less intense.You can state your view there without being hit with a hammer.

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« Reply #18 on: October 18, 2007, 03:07:30 PM »

Yes this was something that had to be said.  *sigh* I must admit that my initial draw to IAP was the P&R section.  Now a days though you can't get a thought or a word out without someone telling you it's wrong because they believe something else.  It's all about religion now, the philosophy seems to have vanished.  *sigh*

To be honest Targo, part of the philosophy section transferred to the lobby over a year ago.

The lobby seems to have a wider readership and is less intense.You can state your view there without being hit with a hammer.



I better get over there and do something about that.   laugh

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« Reply #19 on: October 18, 2007, 04:20:48 PM »

Yes this was something that had to be said.  *sigh* I must admit that my initial draw to IAP was the P&R section.  Now a days though you can't get a thought or a word out without someone telling you it's wrong because they believe something else.  It's all about religion now, the philosophy seems to have vanished.  *sigh*

To be honest Targo, part of the philosophy section transferred to the lobby over a year ago.

The lobby seems to have a wider readership and is less intense.You can state your view there without being hit with a hammer.




yah I know....

but it's more 'playful' there and not quite so deep there.  It's good and fun and great for building community
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« Reply #20 on: October 18, 2007, 04:50:21 PM »

Yes this was something that had to be said.  *sigh* I must admit that my initial draw to IAP was the P&R section.  Now a days though you can't get a thought or a word out without someone telling you it's wrong because they believe something else.  It's all about religion now, the philosophy seems to have vanished.  *sigh*

To be honest Targo, part of the philosophy section transferred to the lobby over a year ago.

The lobby seems to have a wider readership and is less intense.You can state your view there without being hit with a hammer.




yah I know....

but it's more 'playful' there and not quite so deep there.  It's good and fun and great for building community

I'm glad you guys have that section. 

Sections like this one should be reserved for people who want to do battle.   
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« Reply #21 on: October 18, 2007, 04:53:37 PM »

Yes this was something that had to be said.  *sigh* I must admit that my initial draw to IAP was the P&R section.  Now a days though you can't get a thought or a word out without someone telling you it's wrong because they believe something else.  It's all about religion now, the philosophy seems to have vanished.  *sigh*

To be honest Targo, part of the philosophy section transferred to the lobby over a year ago.

The lobby seems to have a wider readership and is less intense.You can state your view there without being hit with a hammer.




yah I know....

but it's more 'playful' there and not quite so deep there.  It's good and fun and great for building community

I'm glad you guys have that section. 

Sections like this one should be reserved for people who want to do battle.   

D9 the P&R section of IAP is not for doing battle.  Actually none of IAP is for battling.  It's a forum built for discussions.  Battling and fighting is against our posting rules and guidelines and you know that D9 so if that is something you would like to do here I can happily show you the door.



hhhmmm if people really want a place for 'fight club' they can ask chovy if that is something he would be willing to add to high society.   
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« Reply #22 on: October 18, 2007, 05:05:25 PM »

I find there is a lot of serious debating going on though in many of the threads.

A lot of serious mass debating.

No wonder the forum has so many stickies  Tongue


Seriously, the topic of religion is an individual one and a personal one. I can't see the point of attacking someone elses belief or trying to change their mind. The whole thing seems pointless to me. As long as people arn't doing harm to others, what does it matter what people believe in.  Smiley
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« Reply #23 on: October 18, 2007, 05:15:34 PM »

It's like watching a game. The two teams involved are trying to prove to each other that they are right, silently giving themselves the win in specific threads. And the same two teams have to be involved in every single thread.

I seriously doubt any of the regulars are looking for anything other than a fight.

Oh yeah?

WTF is that supposed to mean?
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« Reply #24 on: October 18, 2007, 05:16:47 PM »

It's like watching a game. The two teams involved are trying to prove to each other that they are right, silently giving themselves the win in specific threads. And the same two teams have to be involved in every single thread.

I seriously doubt any of the regulars are looking for anything other than a fight.

Oh yeah?

WTF is that supposed to mean?

The regulars of P&R.
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« Reply #25 on: October 18, 2007, 05:24:53 PM »

Knowledge. Cause knowledge is power!
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« Reply #26 on: October 18, 2007, 05:26:57 PM »

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« Reply #27 on: October 18, 2007, 09:39:26 PM »

Yes you're right there is power in knowledge, yet I am certain that you are one of the few that come in here specifically looking for it.
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« Reply #28 on: October 19, 2007, 04:00:14 AM »

I am always reminded of a conversation within a thread at IAP 1.0 that Barnes and I had.  We each have very different ideas yet we walked away with greater understanding and respect for one another.  It was very refreshing for the P&R section.
You obviously had quite an impact on him Wink

Tara, if you want people to have conversations you need to get rid of the trolls.  It's not that hard of a concept.

Indeed.  The conversation will assume the standard that the moderators tolerate.  If this back and forth is accepted that is what you will get.  I understand complaints from participants.  I don't get it that an administrator would make such a complaint.

If you want broad and rounded free flowing conversation, then you might insist the participants contribute the same and escort out those who misbehave.  It is easy to see who those are as their Karma scores are generally quite low.
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« Reply #29 on: October 19, 2007, 04:03:14 AM »

Knowledge. Cause knowledge is power!

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