Hey Jane most of the crimes you attribute to Saddam occured when he was a favoured friend of Washington.
As I stated before, after he gassed the Kurds in Halabja in 1988 he was still being sold weapons by the US 20 months after the attack. By this they actually condoned his actions. 
Business as usual I guess.
Oh and Washington tried to blame this attack on Iran.  Plenty of credibility there. 

It proves everything.
Even after Saddam gassed the Kurds in Halabja the US condoned the attack by:
1.  Blaming Iran
2.  And continuing to supply Saddam with the means of carrying out more attacks.

Show me one instance of Saddam using chemical weapons after Washington transferred him from the category of favoured friend to diabolical rogue?

After he attacked Kuwait he proved he'd outlived his usefullness and the swinging door, rather like the Orwell novel '1984' happened.  Hang on we supported this guy with chemical weapons while he was carrying out such attacks - whoops you're not supposed to remember that as Washington pretends it never happened and tried to erase this from history.

Again you proved nothing but used few empty words and illogical chain of events

Iran declared US as enemy prior Iraqi-Iranian war and Kurds 88' and it was obvious that Iran would be blamed in first place while after research US government came to idea Saddam used WDMs on Kurdish village thus the fight between US and Iraq followed by Gulf War.

Now for gas itself, it called Mustard Gas and been synthesized back in 1822. Do you really think Iraq was unable to reproduce technology from beginning of 19th century? Was it really needed US to import Mustard into Iraq so Saddam could use it against Iran and Kurds? There is no single evidence US had this gas though, Soviets did but not US... Mustard was so WWI... So it doesn't seem to prove anything


Just to make you shut up for few days and think twice before posting some utter crap made of slogans you never checked, Mustard gas was declared as a Chemical Weapon by Geneva convention back in 1993, Iraq had medium range ballistic missiles as it bombed Israel with those back in Gulf War,,,

Now you got owned, IRAQ HAD WDMs ,,, as you can use those SCUDs to carry Mustard Gas which was declared as Chemical Weapon back in 93'


Bottom line don't fuck around with me,,, if i never respond to utter crap types like you use it doesn't mean you right,,, most of ppl just got bored answering the same answers to different newbies who have no idea about army, politics or life but come as gangs to overtake forums because they have no ganja to smoke or girl to fuck with in the college,,

I got 'owned'?
Where are the WMD the very reason for this war?

Okay you want a source girls and boys then here it is:

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/01/13/1041990224220.html

Saddam Hussein has form: he has used WMD before

It is true that Saddam Hussein has used these weapons before, against those who couldn't respond in kind - Iranian soldiers and perhaps most infamously on 17 March 1988 against "his own people" in the Kurdish city of Halabja. Within half an hour of this attack over 5000 men, women and children were dead from chemical weapons containing a range of pathogens which were dropped on them.

If Washington and London are genuinely concerned about Iraq's WMD, why did they continue to supply him with the means to acquire them for 18 months after the attack on Halabja?

Initially, the US blamed Iran for the Halabja attack, a particularly cynical ploy given Saddam had also used chemical weapons against Teheran's forces during their nine-year conflict in the 1980s. In fact Washington continued to treat Saddam as a favoured ally and trading partner long after the attack on Halabja was exposed as his handiwork. At the time, the Reagan Administration tried to prevent criticism of Saddam's chemical attack on the Kurds in the Congress and in December 1989, George Bush's father authorised new loans to Saddam in order to achieve the "goal of increasing US exports and put us in a better position to deal with Iraq regarding its human rights record ." Surprisingly, the goal was never reached. In February 1989, eleven months after Halabja, John Kelly, US Assistant Secretary of State, flew to Baghdad to tell Saddam Hussein that "you are a source for moderation in the region, and the United States wants to broaden her relationship with Iraq."

According to the reports of a Senate Banking Committee, the "United States provided the government of Iraq with 'dual-use' licensed materials which assisted in the development of Iraqi chemical, biological and missile-system programs. According to the report, this assistance included "chemical warfare-agent precursors; chemical warfare-agent production facility plans and technical drawings; chemical warfare-filling equipment; biological warfare-related materials; missile fabrication equipment and missile system guidance equipment." These technologies were sent to Iraq until December 1989, 20 months after Halabja.

According to William Blum a "veritable witch's brew of biological materials were exported to Iraq by private American suppliers," including Bacillus Anthracis (cause of anthrax), Clostridium Botulinum (a source of botulinum toxin), Histoplasma Capsulatam (causes disease which attacks lungs, brain, spinal chord and heart), Brucella Melitensis (bacteria which attacks vital organs) and other toxic agents. The US Senate Committee said "these biological materials were not attenuated or weakened and were capable of reproduction," and it was later discovered that "these microorganisms exported by the United States were identical to those the United Nations inspectors found and removed from the Iraqi biological warfare program" (Blum 2002, pp.121-2).

After the recent leaking in Germany of Iraq's 12,000 page declaration of its weapons program, it is now known that at least 150 companies, mostly in Europe, the United States and Japan, provided components and know-how needed by Saddam Hussein to build atomic bombs, chemical and biological weapons (for the list, see http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/*BLOWN MEASURE*01/22/1042911434942.ht=ml Always willing, we're off to war again). Unsurprisingly, the US was keen to excise these details from Iraq's report before its wider dissemination to non-permanent members of the Security Council (Newsday (US), 13 December, 2002; The Independent (UK), 18 and 19 December, 2002; Scotland on Sunday (UK), 22 December, 2002).

Historian Gabriel Kolko claims that "the United Stares supplied Iraq with intelligence throughout the war [with Iran] and provided it with more than $US5 billion in food credits, technology, and industrial products, most coming after it began to use mustard, cyanide, and nerve gases against both Iranians and dissident Iraqi Kurds" (Kolko 2002, p.34).

If the US is genuinely concerned by Saddam's WMD, why did Donald Rumsfeld (then a presidential envoy for President Reagan, currently President George W. Bush's Defence Secretary) fly to Baghdad in December 1983 to meet Saddam and normalise the US-Iraq relationship, at a time when Washington new Iraq was using chemical weapons on an "almost daily" basis against Iran (Washington Post, 30 December, 2002)? Why were no concerns about the use of these weapons raised with Baghdad?

Running from subject again, WaylanderII ?

Mustard Gas that been used by Iraq during both event was declared as disallowed Chemical Weapon only by 1993, the most important US and UK were the ones who passed the law. Don't look for some blog post even if it was in newspaper to justify your words,, you words are unrelated to subject and you shifting conversation with me.

Iraq had WDM and this was one of the reasons for US attack, other reasons are obvious and yes somewhere in the bottom of the list it is oil,,,, there were many reasons to attack Iraq and all reasons were justified what is unjustified is death of almost million ppl for 4 years but again we can blame US or the real killers aka terrorists either Sunni or Shiite...

your "there was no WDM" or "war for OIL" doesn't work anymore. Iraq was a pain in the ass sooner or later it won't be. Hopefully all those brave man both on ally side and Iraqi side who fight for country without armed religious militias.

Are you laughing at me? Iraq used WDM against Iran and it's own Kurds,,, ask them where is Iraqi WDM,,, you one dirty liberal bastard ,,, Ask those Iraqis on whos children WDMs were tested,,, it's not some article in newspaper and it's ain't some cheap conspiracy talk which became a fashion in your hole... IT IS REALITY
Otherwise Islamic revolution in Iran won't hate Iraq more than US, UK or Israel.

start being ashamed of yourself, your methods are no different than Saddam's "the only truth" brainwashing

Yes Jane you're right and he used those weapons while he was a favoured friend of the US and was rewarded by those actions with further weapons 20 months after

The US even went further in it's support of the chemical weapons attack on the Kurds by Saddam Hussein on Halabja in 1988 by trying to blame Iran for the attack.

What part don't you understnad?

"Initially, the US blamed Iran for the Halabja attack, a particularly cynical ploy given Saddam had also used chemical weapons against Teheran's forces during their nine-year conflict in the 1980s. In fact Washington continued to treat Saddam as a favoured ally and trading partner long after the attack on Halabja was exposed as his handiwork. At the time, the Reagan Administration tried to prevent criticism of Saddam's chemical attack on the Kurds in the Congress and in December 1989, George Bush's father authorised new loans to Saddam in order to achieve the "goal of increasing US exports and put us in a better position to deal with Iraq regarding its human rights record ." Surprisingly, the goal was never reached. In February 1989, eleven months after Halabja, John Kelly, US Assistant Secretary of State, flew to Baghdad to tell Saddam Hussein that "you are a source for moderation in the region, and the United States wants to broaden her relationship with Iraq."

According to the reports of a Senate Banking Committee, the "United States provided the government of Iraq with 'dual-use' licensed materials which assisted in the development of Iraqi chemical, biological and missile-system programs. According to the report, this assistance included "chemical warfare-agent precursors; chemical warfare-agent production facility plans and technical drawings; chemical warfare-filling equipment; biological warfare-related materials; missile fabrication equipment and missile system guidance equipment." These technologies were sent to Iraq until December 1989, 20 months after Halabja."

And the question still stands - where are all the WMD - the reason for the pre-emptive invasion?

Maybe this is the exact time took to investigate an issue. I guess such idea never crossed in your mind. Maybe the deal was 20 month long and US was afraid if they would not fulfill the deal Iraq will attack Kuwait. This maybe the reason Iraq did attack Kuwait.

It's all big MAYBE, simple speculation. Unlike you who certainly sure in some conspiracy i'm open for any ideas and believe deep inside that neither me or you will know the real truth... I guess this thinking is a part of being a human in 21th century.


Do they need to show you Iraqi armories? US government said Iraq has WDM and they certainly did this is what matters. If you have a problem with "Hollywood" type of pre war propaganda,,, then get older and start thinking clear because you fall into same type of "Hollywood" conspiracy just by opposite party.

Maybe they keep materials they got from IRan for your

If you were and are shocked that government uses you as goat while government itself is a shepherd then again start understanding that. Thats the problem with ppl like you it's not that you care for Iraq or American soldiers who die there but you care for you personally being belied by US government... So again they did not lie to you, they just used facts with lies as well you or anyone else does in case he wants to "prove" a point.