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« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2007, 06:48:00 AM » |
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I think we are all missing the point, the crazy young man got the cajones to do it from YouTube. That seems to be the point of the article.
youTube got sued from any possible place, even my work place does sue it for stealing rights,,, few dead Fins don't ring a bell when Sony got your arse tight,,, |
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« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2007, 06:49:53 AM » |
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i don't think Fins like Yanks much,,, but yes Fins probably the craziest musicians in the world (any type of music),,, which brings us back to their childhood,,, pacman and heroin
Pacman and heroin. Haha. So that's what creates black metal... Seriously though, most of them say it's because of their history of Christianity. Pick up the dvd "Metal: A Headbanger's Journey". A lot of good interviews from the leading black metal artists are in there. |
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« Reply #17 on: November 09, 2007, 06:55:02 AM » |
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So maybe is that... not guns, or laws, or even nutbags... but the very "gun violence culture" in the USA. "Have a problen? Shoot at it". For some reason, that occurs far easily to American than to any other citizen in the developed countries. And the reason must be in the USA themselves. Maybe, I suggest, is the attitude towards guns... So it's America's fault this kid shot up a school and then killed himself? It's our fault he posted his video on YouTube? You should practice your reading skills.  How you read "USA caused tragedy in Finland!" when I was saying "USA causes tragedies in USA!", is beyond my understanding...  |
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« Reply #18 on: November 09, 2007, 06:56:17 AM » |
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I've met 30 old Fin woman in Israeli army, she told me that the reason she asked to join Israeli army was that she believes that Fins are 13 Israelite tribe,,, then she told me that her brother is ex Nazi ,,, I don't know what kind of fungus was that but if i ever get cancer or other not nice disease i would try one of those before the tunnel lights fade,,,
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« Reply #19 on: November 09, 2007, 07:05:24 AM » |
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Well he posted his plans on Youtube, I'm not sure what that means, a music video? He obviously wanted to share his passion for... whatever he posted.
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« Reply #20 on: November 09, 2007, 07:12:23 AM » |
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He wanted to prove a point to take Harry Potter looking geeks on youTube seriously,,, interesting thing is his logic falls apart,,, if he is superior to other Fins, how come he wants to be first to commit mass murder in school aka being different than masses,,
hahah this is probably what his first target said,,, what a miserable fock
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« Reply #21 on: November 09, 2007, 08:07:12 AM » |
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Do you think he would have still gone through with it if he was unable to brag about it on YouTube? Probably, but you never know. School shootings are an American thing, but now, an American born thing.
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« Reply #22 on: November 09, 2007, 08:26:57 AM » |
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It's just another story of a loonie. It has nothing to do with guns and the need for more gun control. Good summary. The facts are gun control makes things worse. This is not a fact. The problem with guns vs. control is that every country is a specific case. Solutions that reduce abuse of guns (hm... that is probably not the right expression) in one country will not work in all other countries. Can we agree on that? Only to a certain extent. You can look at say the US vs Canada. Canada doesn't have near the issues with gun violence that the US does. Michael Moore went on a rampage about that in his film. But if you do the research, you'll see that when they enacted more gun control laws, violence increased. The same applies for the US even though they have had very different experiences with gun violence. |
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« Reply #23 on: November 09, 2007, 08:28:37 AM » |
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Do you think he would have still gone through with it if he was unable to brag about it on YouTube? Probably, but you never know. School shootings are an American thing, but now, an American born thing.
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« Reply #24 on: November 09, 2007, 08:59:36 AM » |
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Do you think he would have still gone through with it if he was unable to brag about it on YouTube? Probably, but you never know. School shootings are an American thing, but now, an American born thing.
I hope I didn't read this right. By the logic of "school shootings are an American thing," then we can also assume that violence and ignorance is also an American thing and an American-born thing. A school shooting or massacre anywhere is still a massacre, be it in America or Finland or Japan or wherever. |
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« Reply #25 on: November 09, 2007, 03:30:27 PM » |
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Please. Besides terrorist incidents in other countries by people not going to the school, in what other country has a student of the school come into the school and shot other students? When and where? It's an American thing and apparently it's spreading.
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« Reply #26 on: November 09, 2007, 03:36:26 PM » |
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Please. Besides terrorist incidents in other countries by people not going to the school, in what other country has a student of the school come into the school and shot other students? When and where? It's an American thing and apparently it's spreading.
Yeah, I caught the massacre bug as a kid, but it passed. Maybe one of our animals was aboard an overseas ship and carried it over there. Or maybe somebody with the massacre flu was inadvertently allowed to fly and brought it. Or maybe this whole idea of American shootings being "spread" is retarded. |
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« Reply #27 on: November 09, 2007, 03:58:20 PM » |
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I love the way everyone blames YouTube despite there being no causal link between using YouTube and shooting a bunch of people but yet they deny the connection between the easy availability of guns and shooting a bunch of people.
Clutching at straws...
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« Reply #28 on: November 09, 2007, 04:08:12 PM » |
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Besides terrorist incidents in other countries by people not going to the school, in what other country has a student of the school come into the school and shot other students? Erfurt, 2002Melbourne, 2002 |
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« Reply #29 on: November 09, 2007, 04:53:05 PM » |
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2002 is long after Columbine, and Columbine wasn't even the first.
I'm not saying YouTube causes people to randomly become mass murdering psychopaths. I am saying, that if you feel disillusioned, depressed, and generally like a teenager, with a ton of anger boiling underneath and you're having feelings of wanting to shoot everyone around you, watching and idolizing those who came before is probably what you're going to do. And what better place than YouTube?
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