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« on: November 08, 2007, 09:18:08 PM »

First, this post by Paul Krugman shows that when it comes to Economics, he is more concerned with his reputation as a world-class economist than being a partisan political pundit.

Second, can anyone offer an explanation of what he means? I think I understand it at a superficial level, but what does he mean by "when US spending has to fall by $500 billion a year"?
Has to fall?
Is he saying that Americans are spending less right now, for various reasons. And that creates a shortage of demand in the US. And to avoid a recession, then our prices have to drop for foreigners so that exports can compensate for the lack of demand here? And if that's so, I still don't see why falling prices necessarily mean a falling dollar.

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Dollar doldrums
I won’t say this often, but Dan Froomkin is wrong here. I blame Bush for a lot of things, but the declining dollar isn’t one of them.
The basic issue is that sooner or later foreigners will stop lending America the money to spend more than it earns. Because Americans spend a higher fraction of the marginal dollar on US goods and services than foreigners do, any rebalancing of global spending reduces the demand for stuff made here. And the only way to avoid having that cause a recession in the US is for US goods and services to get relatively cheaper, which in practice means a fall in the dollar.
And it doesn’t matter much what we were spending the money on. Bush’s priorities are all wrong, but regardless, when US spending has to fall by $500 billion a year, the dollar has to fall with it.
From his blog today at the NYTimes web site.
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« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2007, 12:12:27 AM »

can you link the whole article?
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« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2007, 02:54:28 AM »

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Second, can anyone offer an explanation of what he means? I think I understand it at a superficial level, but what does he mean by "when US spending has to fall by $500 billion a year"?
Has to fall?
Is he saying that Americans are spending less right now, for various reasons. And that creates a shortage of demand in the US. And to avoid a recession, then our prices have to drop for foreigners so that exports can compensate for the lack of demand here? And if that's so, I still don't see why falling prices necessarily mean a falling dollar.

Referring to spending cuts is relatively easy. We can just consider the "leakages=injections" accounting identity:

Investment + Government Spending + Exports = Savings + Taxation + Imports

Rearranging, one can see that trade deficits will reflect fiscal deficits and the savings shortfall:

Exports - Imports = (Taxation - Government Spending) + (Savings - Investment)

From that, we have the notion that US net saving has to be increased and, particularly in Asia, reduced abroad.

Of course a problem with that simple analysis is that there is no reference to exchange rates (although they will affect the 4 elements on the right hand side of the expression). However, we should be very careful here. Can the exchange rate provide a panacea to trade imbalances? Economists arent so sure:

Quote from: McKinnon (2007, The transfer problem in reducing the U.S. current account deficit, Journal of Policy Modeling, 29, pp 669–675)
However, contrary to a widely held belief within the economics profession, devaluing the dollar is itself no panacea for correcting the savings (trade) imbalances across countries. The accompanying paper in this volume – “Exchange Rates and Trade Balances under the Dollar Standard”, by Hong Hong Qiao (2007) – shows that, unlike what the old and familiar elasticities model of the balance of trade would suggest, having creditor countries like Japan or China appreciate the yen or renminbi against the dollar would have no predictable effect on their trade surpluses. In effect, their savings surpluses (or the American saving deficiency) need not be corrected if the dollar is devalued. Nevertheless, any such major change in the dollar’s nominal exchange rate could create serious monetary imbalances in the world economy: deflation in the appreciating countries or inflation in the United States, with the tradeoff between the two being somewhat arbitrary (McKinnon, 2007a), but where any long run impact on the “real” exchange rate washes out. Instead, correcting international trade imbalances must start with countries’ changing domestic absorption, i.e. aggregate spending, relative to income. International adjustment requires that net saving be increased in the United States or reduced abroad—particularly in East Asia.

The issue then becomes whether exchange rate movements are necessary to facilitate the elimination of the global imbalance (i.e. transfer of spending). The author suggests not:

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If we use the terms-of-trade (most common) definition of the “real” exchange rate, there is no presumption as to which direction, if any, the real exchange rate need move to facilitate the transfer in the long run. And, in the short run when export prices are “sticky” in each country’s home currency, there is no presumption as to which way the nominal exchange rate should change either...Dollar depreciation would impose an unnecessary secondary burden on the United States as the terms of trade turned against it in the short run, although any real depreciation would eventually unwind in the long run. Because domestic export prices are sticky in the short run, a stable nominal exchange rate would have the great advantage of keeping the terms of trade fairly constant—rather than fluctuating unpredictably as mutual absorption adjustment proceeded.Without devaluing the dollar, U.S. net exports would gradually increase anyway.
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« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2007, 09:19:32 AM »

Krugman is basically saying that a negative savings rate is due to us consuming more than our income which we were able to do by putting our houses up for collateral.  House prices are now falling; defaulting this collateral.  The government is so washed in debt that it has no room to maneuver as long as we keep an incredibly high deficit. 

The government would have to take on more debt by selling securities to foreign countries in order to balance the negative effect of overconsumption.  However, because of the falling dollar we are becoming very close to the point where China and every other nation who has US Treasury securities want to cash in before it goes any lower let alone even buy anymore of our debt.  And you know what that means...

We be screwed.

That's why he wants spending to decrease by $500 billion a year.  And the funny thing is, no one knows this is happening.  Well, at least the average American that is.  The ones who are over consuming in the first place.
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« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2007, 09:17:13 PM »

The dollar is to the Euro what the peso is to the dollar.

I'm all for more insourcing of Europe's web design needs to the US.
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« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2007, 02:18:09 PM »

can you link the whole article?

That was the whole thing. In addition to his twice-weekly columns, he also has a blog on the NYT website. Here's the link to his blog: http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/
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« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2007, 04:46:15 PM »

I think he refers to commercial balance. The US import 500Bln more than it exports.
The only way to balance this is for the americans to accept to work for lower salaries so that more goods can be produced in the US rather than being imported.

The problem is that the US is almost in a war economy: Huge blind spending in the military. While it fuel the economy with jobs, such activities doesn't regenerate wealth on a mid term basis and only true technological developement due to the war effort have a long term effect. That's the cause of an inevitable inflation. Once the US get out of Iraq and of the "surge" plan, the dollar will rise.
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« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2007, 04:49:40 PM »

if americans make less money, won't that encourage more importing of cheaper products?
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« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2007, 01:25:50 PM »

Import of cheaper product is encouraged no matter what american earn.
Sometimes even without consumer consent: I'm ready to pay twice the price for non-chinese products, but I can't find any (except food).

Then if american earn less, salaries will be lower and their products will be cheaper and will finaly concurence asian products. It's hard to produce cheaply when everyone on the assembly chain is a millionaire.

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« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2007, 08:55:49 AM »

I think he refers to commercial balance. The US import 500Bln more than it exports.
The only way to balance this is for the americans to accept to work for lower salaries so that more goods can be produced in the US rather than being imported.

Thanks Fred. Thanks Succa.

How does the fiscal imbalance impact all this? It certainly is a factor in Succa's equation. Would restoring fiscal balance help America's overal economic outlook and strengthen the dollar?

Exports - Imports = (Taxation - Government Spending) + (Savings - Investment)

America should want the left side to be positive, or at least not nearly as negative as it is now, right?
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« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2007, 02:25:05 PM »

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Would restoring fiscal balance help America's overal economic outlook and strengthen the dollar?
Absolutely.
The more your governement is dumping dollars into the economy without taking it back, the more you have inflation or to be exact, loss in the value of the USD. It's directly proportional.
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« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2007, 03:56:53 PM »

America should want the left side to be positive, or at least not nearly as negative as it is now, right?

No.

You're mixing two concepts.  Scuca's point is pretty spot on.  If you want to reduce a trade deficit, you can either reduce spending/investment, or increase savings.  The concept of trade isn't a comparison between the value of the imports versus the values of the exports (Exports-Imports).  In fact, we should examine it as (Exports+Imports) the totality of the trade.  Look at it like Adam Smith looked at it  (a truly impeccable source):

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Nothing, however, can be more absurd than this whole doctrine of the balance of trade, upon which, not only these restraints, but almost all the other regulations of commerce are founded. When two places trade with one another, this doctrine supposes that, if the balance be even, neither of them either loses or gains; but if it leans in any degree to one side, that one of them loses and the other gains in proportion to its declension from the exact equilibrium. Both suppositions are false. A trade which is forced by means of bounties and monopolies may be and commonly is disadvantageous to the country in whose favour it is meant to be established, as I shall endeavour to show hereafter. But that trade which, without force or constraint, is naturally and regularly carried on between any two places is always advantageous, though not always equally so, to both.

By advantage or gain, I understand not the increase of the quantity of gold and silver, but that of the exchangeable value of the annual produce of the land and labour of the country, or the increase of the annual revenue of its inhabitants.

Adam Smith teaches that neither side gains nor loses from trade without restriction or force, but rather both parties prosper as resources will be used more efficiently, leading to lower prices and greater prosperity for the traders.

Think of the "big bad trade deficit."  You know, the one you hear trumpeted on the nightly news.  It's a falsehood.  When Americans buy goods from overseas with dollars, the recipients of those dollars have to do something with them, simply stated.  They can buy exports from America, or they can invest in securities, such as bonds or notes.  Once you have more foreign direct investment (or dollars coming in) than you have going out, those dollars can be used to purchase and invest beyond what we could normally do simply by selling exports.  In other words, a currect account deficit is simply the reverse of a current account surplus.  This is exactly what Adam Smith meant.

Currency valuation comes into play in this discussion when you make valuations of those imports and exports.

So when the columnist states that spending must fall by $500B, it's really only half of the equation.  You could increase savings or place limits on foreign investment in the United States and accomplish the same thing.
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« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2007, 08:30:42 PM »

Here's a Krugman post from today about the effect on the falling dollar on the U.S. economy, not on what caused it to fall:

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I have to do some teaching on the subject of the falling dollar and whether it’s recessionary. So herewith some ruminations. WARNING: FAIRLY WONKISH.
First, we need a model. My starting point is to think of the Fed as setting “the” interest rate (more on that later), and facing two tradeoffs. On one side, the lower the interest rate the higher is employment. On the other side, the lower the interest rate the lower the dollar. In normal times the Fed tries to set the interest rate so as to achieve more or less full employment, and lets the dollar fall where it may.
Now along comes a change in investor expectations that makes the dollar weaker at any given interest rate. This also, with some lag, makes the economy stronger at any given interest rate, because a weaker dollar means stronger exports and less imports.
So what would we expect the effect of changing expectations that weaken the dollar to be? We’d expect it to lead to a weaker dollar (duh) and also higher interest rates — but the latter effect would happen only because the Fed is trying to offset the expansionary effect of that weaker dollar. It shouldn’t depress the economy at all.
OK, so how do we make this story more pessimistic?
One way is to argue that the Fed will have to raise interest rates more than is necessary to stabilize employment. The usual reason given is that the falling dollar will be inflationary, so the Fed will have to support the dollar with higher interest rates to ward off this inflation. OK, this could be right, but I have a hard time making the numbers look big enough to get worried about: imports are only 16 percent of GDP, and exchange rates are much less than fully passed through into import prices. The big dollar fall from 1985 to 1988 wasn’t notably inflationary.
Another argument I used to make was that a dollar plunge would pop the housing bubble, setting in motion a rapid fall in domestic demand that would outpace any rise in exports. But the bubble popped all on its own, so I don’t think this is still valid.
Finally, there’s a fairly subtle argument about term structure and timing.
You see, the Fed only controls short-term interest rates, while investment spending depends on long-term rates. Meanwhile, the effects of a weak dollar on exports take a while, maybe as much as two years, to take full effect.
So there’s a story that runs something like this: a plunging dollar will eventually be very expansionary, and will force the Fed to raise rates to cool off the economy — not now, but a year or two from now. But the expectation of this future rise in short-term rates will push up long-term rates now, causing a recession even if the Fed does nothing.
This story depends on the effect of interest rates on demand working faster than the effect of the exchange rate on exports.
I guess this could work. But it’s a fairly tricky story, and a lot subtler than the alarm I’ve been hearing.
There’s always the possibility that I’m missing something big, but right now that’s where my thinking is.
  http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/11/19/thinking-about-the-dollar/
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« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2007, 10:13:47 PM »

I found this interesting:

Why Isn't Lame $ Causing Inflation?
Given the never-ending debasement of the US dollar, why hasn't inflation been evident Stateside caused by the rising prices of imports? That's the question posed by this Wall Street Journal article. According to the story, foreign exporters have been keen to retain their market shares in the USA. To do so, they've largely shouldered the costs of exchange rate revaluation instead of passing them on to US consumers. Whereas the "pass-through" used to be nearly 50% before the turn of the century--meaning that a 10% USD devaluation resulted in a 5% price increase in imports for US consumers, for example--it's now just 10-25%. It's interesting stuff. Have foreign exporters (a) lost pricing power, (b) decided it's better to retain market share at the expense of profitability, or (c) been bearing it in the meantime only to eventually succumb to price pressures? It will be intriguing to watch....

WSJ article is available here: http://ipezone.blogspot.com/2007/11/why-isnt-lame-causing-us-inflation.html
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The Fed's job is to balance growth and inflation, and few economists believe the central bank should act simply to preserve the dollar's value. Moreover, for Fed policy makers, the weak dollar has been a timely benefit: It is boosting U.S. exports, which helps ease the pain of a severe housing downturn and credit crunch.
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Of the roughly $2 trillion of goods imported by the U.S. last year, more than one-third came from Asia. Compared with the euro, Asian currencies have remained far more stable against the dollar, partly because some countries, such as China, manage their currencies to hold down their value.
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« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2007, 08:17:14 AM »

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Krugman is basically saying that a negative savings rate is due to us consuming more than our income which we were able to do by putting our houses up for collateral.
I agree. Like I have always said: It's like living in a house and still not owning a pot to pee in or a window to throw it out of.

It's just amazing to think about the number of people, out there, that actually believes that debt will take care of it's self. Roll Eyes
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