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« Reply #30 on: November 20, 2007, 03:08:37 PM » |
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What exactly does Social Fascism mean?
It means everyone except rich white people are steralised. To make a more civilised society apparently. |
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« Reply #31 on: November 20, 2007, 04:03:50 PM » |
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It means everyone except rich white people are steralised. To make a more civilised society apparently. In a Social Fascist country wealth would be nationalized along with the economy itself. Mammonistic greed has no place in one's Motherland. OswaldTheOsprey |
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« Reply #32 on: November 21, 2007, 03:14:29 PM » |
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Like in Brave New World?
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« Reply #33 on: November 21, 2007, 05:18:20 PM » |
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Like in Brave New World?
No class stratification like in Brave New World. A superb book by the way. OswaldTheOsprey |
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« Reply #34 on: November 22, 2007, 01:07:00 PM » |
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No class stratification like in Brave New World. A superb book by the way.
So how else are you going to brainwash the 'differently abled' and unterclasses? We are all going to engage our carefully bred intellects one day and our ability to sort excrement the next? Sure we can do that to our minds.... and you want such a society? |
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« Reply #35 on: November 22, 2007, 01:38:39 PM » |
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Like in Brave New World?
No class stratification like in Brave New World. A superb book by the way. OswaldTheOsprey Do you mean it doesn't require class stratification or it requires the lack of class stratification? And other than the class issue how well does Huxley's global dystopia line up with your national utopia? Sorry to pester you and all, but I want to understand your ideas. |
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« Reply #36 on: November 22, 2007, 01:58:19 PM » |
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No class stratification like in Brave New World. A superb book by the way.
So how else are you going to brainwash the 'differently abled' and unterclasses? We are all going to engage our carefully bred intellects one day and our ability to sort excrement the next? Sure we can do that to our minds.... and you want such a society? No class stratification means no "unterclasses". One can have a society that is both intelligent and devoid of classes based on income. Social Fascism differs from standard fascism in that people can leave freely-thus no "differently abled". OswaldTheOsprey |
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« Reply #37 on: November 22, 2007, 02:01:49 PM » |
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Like in Brave New World?
No class stratification like in Brave New World. A superb book by the way. OswaldTheOsprey Do you mean it doesn't require class stratification or it requires the lack of class stratification? And other than the class issue how well does Huxley's global dystopia line up with your national utopia? Sorry to pester you and all, but I want to understand your ideas. I mean there would be no class stratification and no capitalism to promote such unhealthy situations. Social Fascism will gladly allow any to leave who wish to do so. It will be anti-imperialist. Thus very different from the fascism of the 1930s. OswaldTheOsprey |
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« Reply #38 on: November 22, 2007, 02:22:20 PM » |
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No class stratification like in Brave New World. A superb book by the way.
So how else are you going to brainwash the 'differently abled' and unterclasses? We are all going to engage our carefully bred intellects one day and our ability to sort excrement the next? Sure we can do that to our minds.... and you want such a society? No class stratification means no "unterclasses". One can have a society that is both intelligent and devoid of classes based on income. Social Fascism differs from standard fascism in that people can leave freely-thus no "differently abled". OswaldTheOsprey You are just swapping unterclasses based on capital for unterclasses based on some other arbitrary criterion. And of course you'll be in the uber(?)class. |
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« Reply #39 on: November 22, 2007, 02:29:34 PM » |
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No class stratification like in Brave New World. A superb book by the way.
So how else are you going to brainwash the 'differently abled' and unterclasses? We are all going to engage our carefully bred intellects one day and our ability to sort excrement the next? Sure we can do that to our minds.... and you want such a society? No class stratification means no "unterclasses". One can have a society that is both intelligent and devoid of classes based on income. Social Fascism differs from standard fascism in that people can leave freely-thus no "differently abled". OswaldTheOsprey You are just swapping unterclasses based on capital for unterclasses based on some other arbitrary criterion. And of course you'll be in the uber(?)class. All societies are based on arbitrary criterion of one form or another. Those that try to avoid fail-witness France in 1789 and Russia in 1917. OswaldTheOsprey |
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« Reply #40 on: November 22, 2007, 02:34:59 PM » |
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No class stratification like in Brave New World. A superb book by the way.
So how else are you going to brainwash the 'differently abled' and unterclasses? We are all going to engage our carefully bred intellects one day and our ability to sort excrement the next? Sure we can do that to our minds.... and you want such a society? No class stratification means no "unterclasses". One can have a society that is both intelligent and devoid of classes based on income. Social Fascism differs from standard fascism in that people can leave freely-thus no "differently abled". OswaldTheOsprey You are just swapping unterclasses based on capital for unterclasses based on some other arbitrary criterion. And of course you'll be in the uber(?)class. All societies are based on arbitrary criterion of one form or another. Those that try to avoid fail-witness France in 1789 and Russia in 1917. OswaldTheOsprey I don't agree that they need necessarily fail. But please don't pretend to be a socialist when you don't believe in equality. |
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« Reply #41 on: November 22, 2007, 03:30:33 PM » |
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Well, I am certainly not a capitalist in any sense. I consider myself a non-marxist socialist. Name one attempt at a totally egalitarian state that succeeded.
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« Reply #42 on: November 22, 2007, 03:43:52 PM » |
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Well, I am certainly not a capitalist in any sense. I consider myself a non-marxist socialist. Name one attempt at a totally egalitarian state that succeeded.
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« Reply #43 on: November 22, 2007, 04:43:31 PM » |
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Well, I am certainly not a capitalist in any sense. I consider myself a non-marxist socialist. Name one attempt at a totally egalitarian state that succeeded.
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« Reply #44 on: November 22, 2007, 05:42:13 PM » |
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 I was going to suggest that you write a nice long post on your reasons for your views, the historic background, empirical evidence, etc. since I really have trouble following you when you use specialized terms that only you and your cadre understand. You keep using labels and I really have no idea what you mean. Then, I thought, I don't know if I can wade through a tract. However, I will reconsider, if I may be so bold. If you write, IN YOUR OWN WORDS, a few paragraphs of your political and social philosophy, maybe people would understand your point of view a bit better - or define your terms when you post.
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