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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7085956.stmI've been hearing complaints about Romanians for years in Italy, same goes for all Africans in Spain, and Turks in Germany. I have friends in Italy and Spain complaining about their respective groups and say they are much worse than Mexicans, never truly understanding Americans complaints. Heck they said if there was a way to trade immigrants they'd do it in a heart beat. When in Barcelona I heard numerous stories of Romanians taking over vacant apartments and leaving them destroyed before the police ever got around to catching them.
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« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2007, 07:32:13 AM » |
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7085956.stmI've been hearing complaints about Romanians for years in Italy, same goes for all Africans in Spain, and Turks in Germany. I have friends in Italy and Spain complaining about their respective groups and say they are much worse than Mexicans, never truly understanding Americans complaints. Heck they said if there was a way to trade immigrants they'd do it in a heart beat. When in Barcelona I heard numerous stories of Romanians taking over vacant apartments and leaving them destroyed before the police ever got around to catching them. lol, can i ask you, do you know the difference between "roma" and "Romanians" (they are different) |
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« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2007, 07:41:48 PM » |
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7085956.stmI've been hearing complaints about Romanians for years in Italy, same goes for all Africans in Spain, and Turks in Germany. I have friends in Italy and Spain complaining about their respective groups and say they are much worse than Mexicans, never truly understanding Americans complaints. Heck they said if there was a way to trade immigrants they'd do it in a heart beat. When in Barcelona I heard numerous stories of Romanians taking over vacant apartments and leaving them destroyed before the police ever got around to catching them. lol, can i ask you, do you know the difference between "roma" and "Romanians" (they are different) I said Romanians didn't I? I think thats pretty clear in whom I am writting about, if I wanted to say Roma I would have said "gypsies" instead since most people know them under that name. Although you are correct with the problems caused by the Roma, my intent was to show difficulty in immigration from people from one country to another. |
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« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2007, 08:39:27 PM » |
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What exactly makes them "worse" than Mexicans (FYI: I'm not implying that Mexicans themselves are bad to begin with)?
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« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2007, 09:53:18 PM » |
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Perhaps all nations need to restrict immigration plain and simple.
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« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2007, 08:53:48 AM » |
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What exactly makes them "worse" than Mexicans (FYI: I'm not implying that Mexicans themselves are bad to begin with)?
I can only speak of Barcelona since that's where I was for a while, being a international city there are many apts for long term rent so they usually break into these apartments and squat in them causing massive destruction in them. Crime from pickpockets of which I was a victim off though I caught the guy and well lets say I got my cellphone back, is constantly occurring through out the city although the Roma do this in greater numbers. Also there is the organized crime, prostitution, etc, etc,. I once saw a cast where there was up to 15 people squatting in one apartment, if anyone who's been to Europe knows apartments are really small compared to what we usually envision. They found the closet full of trash, dirty diapers under the bed, and women throwing out used maxipads out the window, really nasty stuff and as usual they got away before the cops arrived. These are things that I saw in the news and as for the Roma they have a small enclave of trailers in the middle of the city with nothing but junk in conditions you would only expect to see in a third world country. Also the mothers go out and beg while they leave their kids in government runned nurseries. |
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« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2007, 09:01:56 AM » |
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Perhaps all nations need to restrict immigration plain and simple.
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Immigration will always happen like it or not, the point of this thread is to show that people here who complain about Mexicans realize that there are groups that would really give you a reason to complain about. |
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« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2007, 06:44:03 AM » |
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re:gex IMO the roma are worse than any other migrant group in Europe, because they dont join the "mainstream". and i think people get confused between roma and Romanians(for example in italy the "main" problem was Roma) thats all  |
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« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2007, 09:07:50 AM » |
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Perhaps all nations need to restrict immigration plain and simple.
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Immigration will always happen like it or not, the point of this thread is to show that people here who complain about Mexicans realize that there are groups that would really give you a reason to complain about. I understand your point. True immigration will go on. That said, however, it does not relieve nations of responsibility to police their borders as best possible. Especially as regards illegal immigration. OswaldTheOsprey |
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« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2007, 12:43:14 PM » |
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re:gex IMO the roma are worse than any other migrant group in Europe, because they dont join the "mainstream". and i think people get confused between roma and Romanians(for example in italy the "main" problem was Roma) thats all No problem. Again like I said I was pick pocketed by a Roma guy and I did see reports while over there, but every time I talk to my friends living in Spain they always bring up Romanians. I have several in Barcelona, Valencia, Madrid, and Malaga so they are all over the country yet that is their main complaint although they say Moroccans are moving up. |
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« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2007, 12:46:20 PM » |
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Perhaps all nations need to restrict immigration plain and simple.
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Immigration will always happen like it or not, the point of this thread is to show that people here who complain about Mexicans realize that there are groups that would really give you a reason to complain about. I understand your point. True immigration will go on. That said, however, it does not relieve nations of responsibility to police their borders as best possible. Especially as regards illegal immigration. OswaldTheOsprey I agree with what you have stated and that is not a common occurrence between us. I would recommend you get a book called "While Europe Slept", it explains how immigration is now finally starting to be a concern over there especially from Muslims. |
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« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2007, 02:26:54 PM » |
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Perhaps all nations need to restrict immigration plain and simple.
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Immigration will always happen like it or not, the point of this thread is to show that people here who complain about Mexicans realize that there are groups that would really give you a reason to complain about. I understand your point. True immigration will go on. That said, however, it does not relieve nations of responsibility to police their borders as best possible. Especially as regards illegal immigration. OswaldTheOsprey I agree with what you have stated and that is not a common occurrence between us. I would recommend you get a book called "While Europe Slept", it explains how immigration is now finally starting to be a concern over there especially from Muslims. I will try to get a copy. Thanks for the tip. OswaldTheOsprey |
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« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2007, 08:25:51 PM » |
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'Especially from Muslims'... Please elaborate
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« Reply #13 on: December 21, 2007, 10:30:02 AM » |
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'Especially from Muslims'... Please elaborate
The focus of the book is the drastic rise in immigration from people of Muslim countries like Pakistan, Morocco, etc. |
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« Reply #14 on: December 25, 2007, 11:02:32 AM » |
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lol, can i ask you, do you know the difference between "roma" and "Romanians" (they are different)
lol, you can ask him but vast majority of Romanians are gypsies(what you call "romal") mixed with Slavs and Romans (Italians). So i would lol much. While article on BBC speaks about Romanians whether these Gypsy,German,Slav or Jew Romanians thats another issue... Now for immigration , i believe some economically stable countries can accept some amount of young and well educated immigrants... I'm not sure about education you get in Morocco but in my homeland, Pakistan ppl do quite well. Question is what you have to pay in order to bring some few young Pakis like me to do you a job cheaper than any yank would,, not much but if i bring my family in? Then it starts, the side effect of immigration. Country with proper migration system and proper borders not like the one US has with Mexico, above shouldn't be a problem. |
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