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One of the crowning arguments that Republicans like to use when debating Iraq is that Democrats *LOVE* bad news. No argument has ever made me more sick in my entire life. I mean seriously... how do you even argue with such a ridiculous statement? I have ALWAYS said that I hope I'm wrong about Iraq. I hope it can stabalize and I hope we can leave without a big power vacuum or some calamotous implosion. Well, crow never tasted so good: Baghdad Starts to Exhale as Security Improves BAGHDAD, Nov. 19 — Five months ago, Suhaila al-Aasan lived in an oxygen tank factory with her husband and two sons, convinced that they would never go back to their apartment in Dora, a middle-class neighborhood in southern Baghdad. Today she is home again, cooking by a sunlit window, sleeping beneath her favorite wedding picture. And yet, she and her family are remarkably alone. The half-dozen other apartments in her building echo with emptiness and, on most days, Iraqi soldiers are the only neighbors she sees. “I feel happy,” she said, standing in her bedroom, between a flowered bedspread and a bullet hole in the wall. “But my happiness is not complete. We need more people to come back. We need more people to feel safe.” Mrs. Aasan, 45, a Shiite librarian with an easy laugh, is living at the far end of Baghdad’s tentative recovery. She is one of many Iraqis who in recent weeks have begun to test where they can go and what they can do when fear no longer controls their every move. The security improvements in most neighborhoods are real. Days now pass without a car bomb, after a high of 44 in the city in February. The number of bodies appearing on Baghdad’s streets has plummeted to about 5 a day, from as many as 35 eight months ago, and suicide bombings across Iraq fell to 16 in October, half the number of last summer and down sharply from a recent peak of 59 in March, the American military says. LINK for more And it's from the NYT, no less. |
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« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2007, 08:05:09 AM » |
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I think some Democrats just want Iraq to not get better until after the elections, at which point it becomes a blooming utopia.
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« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2007, 05:09:42 PM » |
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I think some Democrats just want Iraq to not get better until after the elections, at which point it becomes a blooming utopia.
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« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2007, 05:15:42 PM » |
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One of the crowning arguments that Republicans like to use when debating Iraq is that Democrats *LOVE* bad news. No argument has ever made me more sick in my entire life. I mean seriously... how do you even argue with such a ridiculous statement? I have ALWAYS said that I hope I'm wrong about Iraq. I hope it can stabalize and I hope we can leave without a big power vacuum or some calamotous implosion. Well, crow never tasted so good: Baghdad Starts to Exhale as Security Improves BAGHDAD, Nov. 19 — Five months ago, Suhaila al-Aasan lived in an oxygen tank factory with her husband and two sons, convinced that they would never go back to their apartment in Dora, a middle-class neighborhood in southern Baghdad. Today she is home again, cooking by a sunlit window, sleeping beneath her favorite wedding picture. And yet, she and her family are remarkably alone. The half-dozen other apartments in her building echo with emptiness and, on most days, Iraqi soldiers are the only neighbors she sees. “I feel happy,” she said, standing in her bedroom, between a flowered bedspread and a bullet hole in the wall. “But my happiness is not complete. We need more people to come back. We need more people to feel safe.” Mrs. Aasan, 45, a Shiite librarian with an easy laugh, is living at the far end of Baghdad’s tentative recovery. She is one of many Iraqis who in recent weeks have begun to test where they can go and what they can do when fear no longer controls their every move. The security improvements in most neighborhoods are real. Days now pass without a car bomb, after a high of 44 in the city in February. The number of bodies appearing on Baghdad’s streets has plummeted to about 5 a day, from as many as 35 eight months ago, and suicide bombings across Iraq fell to 16 in October, half the number of last summer and down sharply from a recent peak of 59 in March, the American military says. LINK for more And it's from the NYT, no less. A little butter and garlic might help you choke down that bird....... but wait, some moonbat liberals like jpn, freethinker or buzz will come in to whine and cry about how many troops were lost. But fail to tell you that they rejoice every time we lose another American because it helps the democrats chances in 08. They use the KIA count as a political tool and have since the beginning. They lie to your face telling you how much they support the troops. They support the deaths of the troops is more like it. |
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« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2007, 05:26:00 PM » |
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One of the crowning arguments that Republicans like to use when debating Iraq is that Democrats *LOVE* bad news. No argument has ever made me more sick in my entire life. I mean seriously... how do you even argue with such a ridiculous statement? But fail to tell you that they rejoice every time we lose another American because it helps the democrats chances in 08.
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Either you repeat the same conventional doctrines everybody is saying, or else you say something true, and it will sound like its from Neptune.
- Noam Chomsky
... you can almost see the high water mark - that place where the wave finally broke and rolled back.
- Hunter S. Thompson
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« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2007, 05:58:58 PM » |
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One of the crowning arguments that Republicans like to use when debating Iraq is that Democrats *LOVE* bad news. No argument has ever made me more sick in my entire life. I mean seriously... how do you even argue with such a ridiculous statement? But fail to tell you that they rejoice every time we lose another American because it helps the democrats chances in 08.
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They support the deaths of the troops it more like it. ... case in point. Hide your head from the truth....no sweat off my balls...... |
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« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2007, 06:24:54 PM » |
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Do you have the necessary equipemnt?
P.S. I posted the original article, so I don't get the whole "hide from the truth" thing.
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Either you repeat the same conventional doctrines everybody is saying, or else you say something true, and it will sound like its from Neptune.
- Noam Chomsky
... you can almost see the high water mark - that place where the wave finally broke and rolled back.
- Hunter S. Thompson
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« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2007, 07:06:21 PM » |
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This is great news, hopefully the increasing peace is sustainable. She is one of many Iraqis who in recent weeks have begun to test where they can go and what they can do when fear no longer controls their every move. Is this a reference to life during the war or under Saddam's regime? Or perhaps both? It is exciting to think of the positive changes their country will experience, provided stability is established and real democracy is allowed to flourish. Initially entering the war I was very un-supportive of the American invasion, however if it is truly able to improve the lives of Iraqi citizens then at least it can be respected to some degree. |
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« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2007, 02:13:07 AM » |
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Do you have the necessary equipemnt?
P.S. I posted the original article, so I don't get the whole "hide from the truth" thing.
Bigger than your anyways......see it take a real man to fight for his country....you sissy ass liberals wouldnt understand.....its a man thang.... |
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« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2007, 05:04:13 AM » |
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Do you have the necessary equipemnt?
P.S. I posted the original article, so I don't get the whole "hide from the truth" thing.
Bigger than your anyways......see it take a real man to fight for his country....you sissy ass liberals wouldnt understand.....its a man thang.... Did you seriously just equate the size of your dick with patriotism? Wow. Not to mention you just blew over the service of every woman in uniform. Good job.... |
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« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2007, 09:07:02 AM » |
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I think some Democrats just want Iraq to not get better until after the elections, at which point it becomes a blooming utopia.
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« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2007, 10:34:21 AM » |
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I would LOVE to see security in Iraq improve to the point where there is no longer a plausible rationale for keeping US combat troops and permanent military bases in the country. Then perhaps we'll see if there was ever any intent to leave.
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« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2007, 10:46:04 AM » |
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I would LOVE to see security in Iraq improve to the point where there is no longer a plausible rationale for keeping US combat troops and permanent military bases in the country. Then perhaps we'll see if there was ever any intent to leave.
There never was, or will be an intent to leave Iraq. We will be spoon fed just enough feel good stories to make the occupation supporters feel good about the waste of life there. Bush and Cheney are succeeding in their mission in Iraq, That is to say Iraqi oil is staying under the sand and off the market so Texas and the Saudis stay happy. |
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« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2007, 10:51:41 AM » |
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There never was, or will be an intent to leave Iraq. We will be spoon fed just enough feel good stories to make the occupation supporters feel good about the waste of life there.
Bush and Cheney are succeeding in their mission in Iraq, That is to say Iraqi oil is staying under the sand and off the market so Texas and the Saudis stay happy. A post completely devoid of meaning. So now....your story is, it was a war for oil but only to keep it off the market? THAT'S the story now? You sit at YOUR plate of crow (although good news from Iraq is nothing for ANY of us to crow about...that is left to the Iraqis themselves) and refuse to eat? |
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