<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<feed xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom">
	<title type="html"><![CDATA[IAP Political Forum - The real food challenge]]></title>
	<link rel="self" href="http://www.itsallpolitics.com/feed-atom-topic170.xml"/>
	<updated>2010-03-06T20:55:02Z</updated>
	<generator>PunBB</generator>
	<id>http://www.itsallpolitics.com/topic170-the-real-food-challenge.html</id>
		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: The real food challenge]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="http://www.itsallpolitics.com/post2150.html#p2150"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Ok enough, your making me hungry.</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Opmod]]></name>
				<uri>http://www.itsallpolitics.com/user53.html</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2010-03-06T20:55:02Z</updated>
			<id>http://www.itsallpolitics.com/post2150.html#p2150</id>
		</entry>
		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: The real food challenge]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="http://www.itsallpolitics.com/post2149.html#p2149"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>yep....and they get picked green and about the size of a snooker ball in Mexico or the Central Valley, loaded in a truck bound for some vegetable warehouse in Portland or Seattle, then loaded into a refrigerated container and put on a ship which then blasts through 2000 miles of (on average) 12-14&#039; head seas </p><p>but then again, i can take myself to Kodiak and &#039;hunt&#039; buffalo and come back with 600lbs of beautifully marbled papa for ~2.50/lb and i get a big buffalo robe out of the deal on top of it</p><p>combine that with 5 deer, 10 halibut from 20-100lbs, 70lbs of shrimp, 30-100lbs of crab, 5 lingcod from 36-50&quot; long, about 100 rockfish from 5-25lbs, the occasional king and silver salmon - and i got a pretty good meat haul for a week of hunting, fishing, and drinking beer with my buds</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[allpoints]]></name>
				<uri>http://www.itsallpolitics.com/user190.html</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2010-03-06T20:03:53Z</updated>
			<id>http://www.itsallpolitics.com/post2149.html#p2149</id>
		</entry>
		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: The real food challenge]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="http://www.itsallpolitics.com/post2146.html#p2146"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Seiuously? $5.19 a lb? great goggley moggaly!!!!</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Opmod]]></name>
				<uri>http://www.itsallpolitics.com/user53.html</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2010-03-06T14:42:57Z</updated>
			<id>http://www.itsallpolitics.com/post2146.html#p2146</id>
		</entry>
		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: The real food challenge]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="http://www.itsallpolitics.com/post2144.html#p2144"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>gojira wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>allpoints wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>despite the author&#039;s incredibly flawed and woo-laden premise, &quot;real health comes from real food, and real food never comes from a box.&quot;, i am way ahead of him because i live in Alaska and make good use of the opportunity to take a very large part of my diet from the wild with my own hand <br />i&#039;m also a member of an organic garden coop and do a LOT of canning/freezing</p><p>i pity you people that you can&#039;t do the same whenever you wish...</p><p>in the meantime, seafood from sustainable fisheries is a very good option</p></blockquote></div><p>Sure, I could buy some canned/frozen food off you if I prefer not to do it myself.&nbsp; (I prefer not to) However, the food industry has undercut you by price for the same exact thing so I will buy it from them. </p><p>But oh no, if it isn&#039;t packaged by someone you know then it has to be bad!&nbsp; <img src="http://www.itsallpolitics.com/img/smilies/roll.png" width="15" height="15" alt="roll" /></p></blockquote></div><p>huh?</p><p>i said from the start that i thought the challenge author&#039;s premises were problematic<br />the cells in your body could care less where they get their polypeptides, magnesium, and fructose</p><p>i also don&#039;t think you realize where i live, and that i don&#039;t pass 4 grocery stores, 6 McDonalds, a couple Carl&#039;s Jrs, a Pizza Hut, and 14 7-11s on my way to work in a cubicle in a highrise</p><p>my freezer is loaded with salmon, halibut, sablefish, king crab, spot prawns, rockfish, moose, mountain goat, caribou, black bear, blueberries, cranberries, parsnips, fiddleheads, salmonberries, homegrown tomatoes, potatoes, carrots, zucchini, etc because it&#039;s vastly cheaper and vastly more fun to collect it myself</p><p>plus, by the time the $5.19/lb tomatoes from the local Safeway (30 miles away) come up through the Gulf Of Alaska on a contship, they look pretty sorry</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/plot_wave.php?station=46080&amp;meas=sght&amp;uom=E&amp;time_diff=-9&amp;time_label=AKST" alt="http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/plot_wave.php?station=46080&amp;amp;meas=sght&amp;amp;uom=E&amp;amp;time_diff=-9&amp;amp;time_label=AKST" /></span></p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[allpoints]]></name>
				<uri>http://www.itsallpolitics.com/user190.html</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2010-03-05T20:46:15Z</updated>
			<id>http://www.itsallpolitics.com/post2144.html#p2144</id>
		</entry>
		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: The real food challenge]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="http://www.itsallpolitics.com/post2142.html#p2142"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>allpoints wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>despite the author&#039;s incredibly flawed and woo-laden premise, &quot;real health comes from real food, and real food never comes from a box.&quot;, i am way ahead of him because i live in Alaska and make good use of the opportunity to take a very large part of my diet from the wild with my own hand <br />i&#039;m also a member of an organic garden coop and do a LOT of canning/freezing</p><p>i pity you people that you can&#039;t do the same whenever you wish...</p><p>in the meantime, seafood from sustainable fisheries is a very good option</p></blockquote></div><p>Sure, I could buy some canned/frozen food off you if I prefer not to do it myself.&nbsp; (I prefer not to) However, the food industry has undercut you by price for the same exact thing so I will buy it from them. </p><p>But oh no, if it isn&#039;t packaged by someone you know then it has to be bad!&nbsp; <img src="http://www.itsallpolitics.com/img/smilies/roll.png" width="15" height="15" alt="roll" /></p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[gojira]]></name>
				<uri>http://www.itsallpolitics.com/user25.html</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2010-03-05T18:54:22Z</updated>
			<id>http://www.itsallpolitics.com/post2142.html#p2142</id>
		</entry>
		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: The real food challenge]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="http://www.itsallpolitics.com/post2121.html#p2121"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>despite the author&#039;s incredibly flawed and woo-laden premise, &quot;real health comes from real food, and real food never comes from a box.&quot;, i am way ahead of him because i live in Alaska and make good use of the opportunity to take a very large part of my diet from the wild with my own hand <br />i&#039;m also a member of an organic garden coop and do a LOT of canning/freezing</p><p>i pity you people that you can&#039;t do the same whenever you wish...</p><p>in the meantime, seafood from sustainable fisheries is a very good option</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[allpoints]]></name>
				<uri>http://www.itsallpolitics.com/user190.html</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2010-03-04T22:05:20Z</updated>
			<id>http://www.itsallpolitics.com/post2121.html#p2121</id>
		</entry>
		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: The real food challenge]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="http://www.itsallpolitics.com/post2117.html#p2117"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Opmod wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I know I fail as soon as I wake up. I drink coffee thats been pre-ground and I am sure processed in some other way.</p><p><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/02/23/real.food.challenge/?hpt=Sbin">http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/02/23/re &#133; /?hpt=Sbin</a></p><p>How many here can live upto the test? As I sit here thinking about it the task boggles my mind.</p></blockquote></div><p>I don&#039;t understand this backlash against processed foods. Before industrial mechanization, households used to have to process foods themselves...you know...like canning, preserving, and what not.&nbsp; </p><p>Unless you pick an apple straight from the tree, most food is processed and for good reason.&nbsp; The fact that some my find it &quot;unhealthy&quot; are only pointing blame on the bad apples and not realizing that processing foods has done so much more for humanity than people who don&#039;t understand can wrap their brain around.</p><p>I wouldn&#039;t be surprised in this &quot;challenge&quot; that processed foods would have a biased definition to fit the needs of those who fail to understand its importance.</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[gojira]]></name>
				<uri>http://www.itsallpolitics.com/user25.html</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2010-03-04T19:09:56Z</updated>
			<id>http://www.itsallpolitics.com/post2117.html#p2117</id>
		</entry>
		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[The real food challenge]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="http://www.itsallpolitics.com/post2113.html#p2113"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I know I fail as soon as I wake up. I drink coffee thats been pre-ground and I am sure processed in some other way.</p><p><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/02/23/real.food.challenge/?hpt=Sbin">http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/02/23/re &#133; /?hpt=Sbin</a></p><p>How many here can live upto the test? As I sit here thinking about it the task boggles my mind.</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Opmod]]></name>
				<uri>http://www.itsallpolitics.com/user53.html</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2010-03-04T01:44:50Z</updated>
			<id>http://www.itsallpolitics.com/post2113.html#p2113</id>
		</entry>
</feed>
