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(9 replies, posted in Middle East)

Gommi, we don't need regime change. The only thing we need is to destroy materialy their nuclear facilities. Believe me if we destroy them, it will take a decade for them to rebuild.
This is the only way but we shouldn't venture into that before having the technology and the resource to do with a certain result.

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(9 replies, posted in Middle East)

I replied in the right thread.

http://www.htasoft.com/misc/smol3.jpg
In red the axis of the plane (or its remnants). In yellow the axis of the runway.
I can't imagine that the pilot would attempt a landing without knowing exactly where the runway was.


Here you can see that there is no trace of the plane on the ground suggesting the debris fell abruptly.
http://www.htasoft.com/misc/smol3b.jpg

If you draw a line across the debirs this line heads nowhere and is a good 5 degrees off the landing strip axis which is at the top right of the picture.

The other point is that there is no trace of the plane scraping the ground before the impact. To see that you have to enlarge the picture in a picture viewer.
Because of that, it's unclear which tree or object touched the plane before it crashed.

So and what the UNHCR wants us to do?
Give a cosy cottage in a green countryside to every refugee and every homeless?
Sure, but give us the money.

There is no resources in villages. If all poor poeple (refugees are only 1% of the poeple living in poverty) had to stay in villages, first, villages would become cities (no problem resolved) and second, the water sources and field would run dry very quickely.
Gathering in urban areas is the most economical way and maybe the only one to get food and water to huge amounts of poeple, always showing up in greater and greater numbers.

Talks about hygiene, legal jobs, healthcare and education will come later, I'm afraid. As long as the 3rd world countries population will be doubling every 10 years, these question will be as relevant as dog hairdresser ethic.

jackattacks wrote:

There is current technology available which would cause structures to slide back and forth and take up the energy of the quake without falling apart.

No, this technology is not available because it's too expensive.
Poeple don't have money, governements don't have money (other than what they can borrow immediately), so who will pay for that?

Jackattack wrote:

You fail to discuss what is happening in Europe where new births are mostly from mothers who are adherents of Islam. In Europe, Muslim births are 3.5, Christian births are 1.2.

Wrong: Women with more than 3 kids are called Muslims, others are called Christians.
My point is that muslims who adopted a lifestyle 100% european (and there are a lot) are not muslim anymore in the sens we are discussing here. But for the stats, they still are.

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(9 replies, posted in Middle East)

No sanction will work. Only a large scale bombing campain with bunker blaster bombs can have it done.
But the US doesn't have the money after the crisis, doesn't have the spirit for another war after Iraq and Af'. And it's not clear wether the technology to destroy their tunels is there beyond prototype stage.
But a massive strikes on their site, if effective would be a must.

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(18 replies, posted in Middle East)

Cedar wrote:

wrote:

I wrote:

If we took the laws of all the ultraradicals from jewish, muslim and christian religions we would have the same rules aproximately.

Jewish and muslim maybe, but not Christian. Christianity is the religion of peace and acceptance of others. Of course people preaching christianity by dooming other people to hell is an altogether different subject.

That's why I said ultraradicals. All religions are moreless peace based (when poeple agree to see the obvious) but radicalism make it violent and unviable.
f you take some radical puritanist concept from some christians, they will dress women like nuns and hate muslims and jews. It's all about paranoiac about women's dress and hatred of other religions.

Jackattacks: Did we realy need genetic studies to know that jews, muslims and armenians are all semitic poeple (therefore sharing the same genetic pool)?

No, IMO it's an interresting topic: It's called capitalsim.
Chinese have money to invest and give jobs to Kyrgistanese.

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(27 replies, posted in Europe and Asia)

Cedar wrote:

So yes, to you Arab=muslim.

Ecxcept a few wackos in Lebanon, I don't see many arabs who are not muslims. Do you? Yeah. sure you do where you are! LOL

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(9 replies, posted in The Environment)

I thought carpooling was against American religion... big_smile

Fasttracs are cool but the most important thing in public tranportations is frequency no matter what type of vehicle it is. They never get it in ther mind: you always wait half an hour until the next whatever arrives.

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(1 replies, posted in The Environment)

WTF: World Temperature Fund big_smile

Why there is a 1.4 Trillion hole in the budget? Because $1 Million for them is not even money. Money starts at "Billion".

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(15 replies, posted in The Environment)

Jackattack wrote:

Clearly Mother Nature favors you over all the black people who perished. I cannot believe you have the gall to type such mean spirited words. There are many white reporters who perished as well and maybe that will make a difference on how you appraise this tragedy. Shame on you.

Why do bring color into that?
I didn't talk about black or about any race. You did. Not me.

Patton wrote:

That had nothing to do with "global warming"....

No but it has to do with natural genocide. And the principle is the same: Where there is overpopulation, and small change in the environement or any natural disaster will kill poeple in quntities that amount to genocide.

Chovvy wrote:

You can't seriously think Mother Nature is targeting specific people based on their race....that is insane

I don't understand why you all bring the topic of race... but ok: No I was not satiristic or irrational.
In overpopulated areas large amount of poeple are at risk to be killed in case of natural disaster or, as the topic is concerned, in case of climate change. Because the ;ore the poeple the more poeple are going to live in risky places or in place with very low resources.
No mater wether they are black, asian or white of course. Where there are too many poeple, some will die quickely in case of natural event.

And that is because these poeple can't move anyone else. If we had to displace 100 million poeple because of sea level rise, it would be perfectly impossible without huge unrest, possibly wars and they will be forced to stay in floodable areas.

It's extremely rare that nobody survives a crash landing.

Look at this sat picture
Given the position of the debris, I can't believe that the plane was prepared for landing when it hit the ground.

The landing strip where it had to land is only patrtly visible on the top of the photo, several degrees off the plan direction.

Also there is no trace on the ground of the plane crashing track (fallen trees, earth removed, etc) which suggest the debris fell before the plane was destroyed. The debris themselves opened a way through the woods, but nothing before that. The area between the debris and the road for example is intact. The road itself whould have been cut.

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(15 replies, posted in The Environment)

Patton,
Mother Nature will take care of the genocide. Look at Haiti: Already 140,000 wiped out. Haiti is the most overpopulated place in the world.

Very good! Crypto! wink
I agree, the poeple are too negativists. They want to disagree more than to agree.
If the US can do something significant, the whole world will follow the US because the US is at the top of the global civilisation.

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(15 replies, posted in The Environment)

So let's move polar bears and pinguins to Antartica.

The problem remains that humans have no room to migrate has the weather to become unviable in some areas.
This is the main different between today and ancient times.

This article excatly reflects my personal opinion.

1/ Attempts at reducing global temperatures will be without visible effect. I'll add that we are not able to change weather globaly with the current state of our technology and finances.

2/ Funds to fight global warming will divert, not add to, funds for third world aid where it will be more useful.

3/ Emerging countries think only about the money they expect us to give them. Won't happen.
But the worse is that emerging countries didn't get to the principle of reducing CO2 emissions. Only to the principle of getting cash from western countries.
Again 2/3 of the world is not in the bandwagon.

4/ Environementalist are way off the realities and way of the boundaries of reason whit their requests.

TBS, I don't agree with the pseudo-scientific argument that we don't have to do anything because anyway we had x cold period and y heat periods in the last z years.

IMO one should create a new word: Palinism

A meaningless phrase uttered by an intellectualy inept person in an attempt to give an answer or make a comment.

Sarah Palin wrote:

"a naturally occurring phenomenon that existed long before, and will exist long after, any governmental attempts to affect it."

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(18 replies, posted in Suggestions)

Ok, Chovy but how much do you hope to gather with volontary $1 life membership? $10 per year? It's a little bit ludicruous.

As for adds, do as you deem best. Adds are everywhere anyway.

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(15 replies, posted in The Environment)

I'm not even optimistic about the Sahara or other regions becoming greener thanks to more rainfalls.
Because as rainfal and harvests grow, the population will grow too at the same pace f not faster, keeping the area as overpopulated as before.
Population will be always at risk of disasters because they always grow to the maximum food outputs and intakes permits.

Only if we cut the number of humans on this planet by half we will have room to migrate and adapt had the climate change by several degrees one way or another.

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(18 replies, posted in Middle East)

If we took the laws of all the ultraradicals from jewish, muslim and christian religions we would have the same rules aproximately.

So I suggest we herd all the radicals from all religions to Palestine where they can have fun toghether and let the rest of the world in peace.

What an extra 2°C globaly would do?

I think that for most of the planet there shouldn't be catastrohpic changes. It can be even positive for the total biomass and rainfalls.
Even rising sea levels will be small and poeple will have time to relocate.

However there are 7 billions poeple on this planet and many of them live on the edge of the climate limits. This population have grown under a certain environement, adapted to it so well and so specificaly to the point of maximum density that a re-adaptation can be made only at huge economic and demographic costs.

A change in the environement wether it be more rain, more heat, more drought will put the populations at risk in jeopardy. Not humanity.
The problem is that population at risk are disproportionate today. We have seen that in the tragedy of the tsunami in eastern Aisa in 2004. A typhoon, aforest fire, a flood inevitably wipes out hundreds of poeple and displace thousands. The economic cost of every single natural event is in the billions.

Moreover, if one million poeple die in a natural disaster it won't make any significant difference in the global or even regional population. But the pain, the economic loss, the new poverty created and the social instability is huge because of the density of the population.
And the problem will remain despite all the deaths and disapeared.

We are 7 billions on Earth but we seem incapable of relocating one million as seen for example in the Palestinian conflict.
If the sea rises one meter, we will face 500 Palestinian conflicts.
We could adapt to anything if we had room to move. But we don't.
Everywhere you go, the land is already occupied by a population and this population is already living near maximum capacity. A treshold where more immigrant is causing an imbalance and an unacceptable loss for the locals.

That's why IMO, there is a wind of panic at the global warming issue.

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(27 replies, posted in Europe and Asia)

Cedar,
They don't have a lot of imams. And most of them are moderates who don't shout "Kill the infidel" at every end of a sermon.

Hope09
Could you open a new thread when you open a new topic.
Thanks.

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(27 replies, posted in Europe and Asia)

Cedar Pride wrote:

Arab = Muslim to you and well....to me as well

Not exactely. You must be not very familiar with the french jargon.

Arab means a youth from the banlieu (or a poor area since it's not always in the banlieue) with no job, dodging school, carrying a knife (not enough money for a gun), doing very small drug deals, small burglaries and stealing bycicles. They often have encounters with police but the longest they stay in custody is 24 hours. They stand in the street by group of 4 or 5. Not only because the soap opera their mother is watching at home is too boring but also because they think they make something useful by keeping control of their zone.
It happens that many of them, not all, have north african ancestry.
They have an accent, speak the local slang, and grow a light moustache by the age of 15 which they shave by the age of 20.

You see it has little to do with religion.

Cyber
This is xenophobia. Not religion or cultural issue.
They hate what is different, black, foreign.

But the minaret ban is based on a broader common sens decision. No matter if some small neo nazy groups militated for that.