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These subsidies are permanent. Costs will go down. Here's how: http://www.newsweek.com/id/235246

I agree that costs are being transferred to tax payers--high income tax payers. It's a transfer of wealth from the top to the bottom. High income taxpayers will pay more FICA tax, while low and middle class taxpayers will have subsidized insurance premiums.
--Starting in 2013, an increase in the Medicare payroll tax by 0.9 percent on incomes over $200,000 ($250,000 for couples filing jointly). Also, people at this income level would pay a new 3.8 percent tax on investment income

Biker Dude wrote:

Moved

One hundred and forty against ONE.
  What we saw here today was political history. We witnessed the beginning of the end of the republicon party. Without script, teleprompter or notes of any kind Barry shot down every talking point they could come up with and he did it with dignity respect and adult decorum. When they tried their time tested childish name calling, polarizing rhetoric and partisan whining Barry chastised them with calm wisdom and clear irrefutable facts. He gave them a lesson in politics, democracy, economics and government. It left them with their heads spinning and their arguments hollow and empty.
As all networks covered the event live, Fux Snooze was no exception. But when it became apparent that Barry was handing them their asses Fux Snooze ended coverage a half hour before the meeting concluded... So much for fair and balanced...This was some of the most compelling political TV I have ever seen. The cowards at Fux wouldn't even cover it.

GOBAMA!!!

As a neighbor, I care about the health and well being of my Americans neighbors.

The statistic that I rely on are published by the U.N. They can be check and verified. I am not engaging in anything other than relying on published data that I have checked. No body who has responded to my posts has relied on anything other than themselves. I feel my post are authoritative. I do not know where that leaves the rest of you.

Only China is fully recovered and growing like crazy.

You don't want more spending, that's Reaganite. Spending is the only way out. What got us out of the Depression was WWII, a massive government spending project. Our debt now is not anywhere close to that. We can afford it. We need to afford it. Throwing money at small businesses makes them dependent on the government. You have to prop up the Big guys in the short and long run for the little guys.

Biker Dude wrote:

Never heard the term self-hating?

If you can't see the point about what you said there is no need to continue.

The first part of your post doesn't make any sense to me.

As for the second part, please do go on. I would really like to see that famous point 

Outsourcing, in case you hadn't managed to pick up on the topic, Biker Dude, was not the topic of the thread, but it does create issues because of the lack of appropriate ability to inspect the facilities where the maintenance is accomplished, had you bothered to read the articles provided.

Yep, Chovy.  The sheeple line up to get on those aircraft, because if one must travel any distance for business or pleasure it's the only way to go.

And when you have two major wars in progress what better method to bring home that same old Cheney/Bush mantra, it's all about al Qaeda? 

So some rich radical gets on an aircraft because State, HLS, and those they pay to harass the flying public screwed up once more. But be cautious as you might be on that "no fly" list that this passenger was on. But if he or she wants to blow up the aircraft your best hope is once more your fellow passengers will fight back.

Ya think, maybe there are some very valid points made in this short article from the Old Gray Lady today with a hyper-link included on the link from the blog that was the one that actually
made the points?